I had talked to the owner of both those in Vineland, he doesn't want to break up the pair, he basically wants to sell everything or nothing. The 1250 is nice, its got almost no wear on the tractor itself. The loader mounts are home made but well done, if not overkill. The 1455 is usable if you fix the ignition, I checked the compression on both and boat motors are healthy.
I only went out of curiosity, but for the right price I'd ad both to my collection here. I think he might sell the loader alone, but he'll only sell the loader with the weight box, he'd keep the weights on the tractor for plowing. We talked about $1200 for the loader and weight box and I'd throw in a three point set up so he can use his 3pt attachments. The mounts for the loader are welded on, so they're not removable nor would I expect him to cut them off, but he does have another fender pan there to use if he did.
I think the 1455 needs the fender pan more since the running board corners have some rust.
I don't think his overall price is too bad, I just don't need or want them that bad. I've got just about all the Bolens stuff I need now.
If you figure the individual items separate, they far more than total what he's asking. I've seen model 12 loaders go for as much or more than a 14, the JD crowd will go nuts for that loader. They're no lighter than a 14, they're just reversed the front rams and controls. I actually prefer the 12 for picking up dirt and manure since the bucket can roll down further and dig a little.
That manure bucket is nice too, those were super wide compared to the standard bucket. I had a model 10 here about a year ago that I put online, I had four guys fighting over it in less than an hour. I listed it on CL for $1500 without any mounts or weight box. The guy with those in Vineland has a pretty decent idea what all that is worth, so he's not going to give it away.
Me, I stick to the one lung motors, I've never seen the need for the big twins, nor have I had much luck with them. From what I've seen, those old Wisconsin motors will outlast a twin by far. You can't beat the shear torque and sound of those old Wisconsin motors.
I had offered $2000 cash for both machines, the loader, tiller, snow blower, and plow in Vineland but he wouldn't do it. In reallity the loader is worth $1500, the 1250 another $500, and the red 1455 at least $350, plus another $350 for the tiller, then what ever you figure the plow and snow blower are worth, maybe $150 each or so. If they were mine, I'd be asking more, and would be insulted if you offered only $1500 for the 1250, that to me would be like giving away the tractor and wheel weights for the cost of the loader. Not to mention he had a brand new set of Titan loader lugs there on rims that have to be worth another $300 or more.
The whole deal would be the way to go, especially if you wanted to just turn a buck and part it all out, the sum of their parts is WAY over the asking price, figure what two Eaton 12 units, the loader, the two lug tires, and the tiller would bring on eBay alone, I've seen Eaton 12 units go over $250, whole transaxles can double that. Something I noticed on that 1250 was how tight everything felt, it don't seem like its had a lot of use. It most likely only got used when the loader was needed and sat the rest of the time. The motor had excellent compression, so did the 14hp in the red tractor.
Those 15" weights bring $150 per set, sometimes more, I sold three pair here last fall for $500 to a guy in FL. I had them listed for $150 per set, he added $50 to get me to meet him just off of I95 with them in PA.
I seriously considered buying them and parting them out myself but I don't have the time these days and they would most likely just get added to my already too big fleet of tractors here anyway.
If those were mine, the loader would get sold and I'd rig up one with the tiller and maybe the snow plow, and set the other up with a three point hitch for garden work, I'd probably run the 1250 I have now with a plow, and set that 1250 up with a disc. I don't have any use here in NJ for a snow blower, we just don't get that kind of snow very often, and I already have two of them. I'm sure it would sell though to someone farther north though for a few hundred bucks or so. I sold one I had that needed work to a guy who drove down from CT two years ago for $150, he was glad to get it. That one in Vineland looks new compared to either of mine here.
I gave that guy in Vineland the web address to GT Talk here, I'm not sure if he ever joined up or bothered looking.
I mainly got the impression that he don't really want to sell them, he really only had the snow blower and decks listed, he never did list the tractors or any of the other items that I see. I see the deck listing is gone as well.
I also got the impression he's more interested in bigger tractors, the Bolens were sort of a side deal he came across, I thought about asking if he'd swap for a Farmall Cub or something more suited for farming than a big GT. I do know he's got a larger piece of land somewhere else where he does some planting. He also has a place in FL. I sort of figured he was getting ready to take the Bolens stuff all down to FL, thus the reason for selling the snow blower while its still here.
The day I was there he sold three other tractors he had there, two big Jacobsen GTs, and an Ariens both were sold for decent money that day, he had several others in a barn outback as well as the others in the garage with the two Bolens. The 1250 would run on carb cleaner, I didn't try putting gas in the tank since the fuel lines looked pretty well dryrotted. The 1455 had no spark, the ign. module was on the seat. It did attempt to fire on a portable ignition box but my jump box battery died mid try.
I think someone else on here also was looking at them, I'm not sure if they ever followed through or not, its been over a week since I was there, they may even be gone now with all the attention they seem to have gotten on here.
All I can say is I wouldn't ever sell any of mine for that little, with or without the loader simply because you can't find anything close to them for that kind of money. A 1250 will do basically the same work as say a Kubota B5100 or even B6100, and they bring upwards of $5500, so why sell something that would force me to spend more money than I made selling what I had which did the same job? While I'd rather have the more versatile Kubota or any CUT diesel, I would never spend that much on one machine just to use it once or twice a year in the garden here. My 1250 works just fine, I'm sure that's basically what that seller in Vineland is thinking.
Either way, this got way off from Red tractors, the 1455 isn't the only one I've seen, and from what I see, all seem to be in this basic area, I found a few posts about red Bolens LFs in PA some time ago as well. I do think that seller may sell just the 1455 alone, minus the tiller, but I doubt he'd let it go cheap, I'd do $350 minus the tiller and rear weights on just the tractor, the spare parts alone are worth that to me.