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Ready To Give Up, Jd 314 Eta: Not Yet !


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#1 nade-em OFFLINE  

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Posted February 27, 2013 - 07:17 PM

This thing is driving me nuts! After i replaced the starter , starter cylinoid, put on used carb, redid the wiring, two gas tanks( one had a busted petcock), new battery, new cables, new fuel lines, new hydro vent hose, it still won't fire!!! I found out tonight the coil might be bad( if i tested it right). The fuel pump wasn't pumping, so i took it apart to find a crapload of rust particles jammed in there. I got that all cleaned out and put it back , still nothing! I about ready to take it out back and shoot the damn thing!! Wife doesn't understand how much work and money i put in this thing already. Am i being a crybaby, and should suck it up? :D


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Posted February 27, 2013 - 07:37 PM

Do you have spark at all? I am unfamiliar with the 314, but I assume it also has the Onan like the 318?
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Posted February 27, 2013 - 07:39 PM

No spark at all. I checked the coil with the key on, and its showing 12 volts on the + post. All the safety switches are working.( seat, PTO, and nuetral )

 

 

ETA: Has the Kohler 14 HP, single cylinder

 

 

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Posted February 27, 2013 - 07:40 PM

Does this engine have the pickup or the points?
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Posted February 27, 2013 - 07:44 PM

It has breaker points, on the drivers side. They look good, gap is good, and not corroded.


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Posted February 27, 2013 - 07:56 PM

How did you test the coil?

Have you replaced the condensor?

 

http://gardentractor...=+testing +coil


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Posted February 27, 2013 - 08:01 PM

How did you test the coil?

Have you replaced the condensor?

 

http://gardentractor...=+testing +coil

Yep, tested it just like this. Got nothing. Haven't replaced anything, it was too late. Bob was closed by then. I really don't want to buy a new coil. Rather have used because of prices.


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Posted February 27, 2013 - 08:06 PM

Do you have a continuity checker?  If the coil is good, you may be dealing with a ground or adjustment issue at the points.


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Posted February 27, 2013 - 08:12 PM

did you check the wire from the coil to the points?

I had about the same problem - no spark

I checks the voltage from the coil to point and it was less than 3 volts

make  a test wire from the coil to the points and now it has spark.

used my spark plug test and I can open it up to a 1/2" and it still has a good spark

replace that wire and it runs better than it has it years


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Posted February 27, 2013 - 08:14 PM

Will an old analog Triplett  multi meter work? What setting should i use?


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Posted February 27, 2013 - 08:15 PM

did you check the wire from the coil to the points?

I had about the same problem - no spark

I checks the voltage from the coil to point and it was less than 3 volts

make  a test wire from the coil to the points and now it has spark.

used my spark plug test and I can open it up to a 1/2" and it still has a good spark

replace that wire and it runs better than it has it years

No, but i will try that tomorrow. Thanks!!


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Posted February 27, 2013 - 08:19 PM

First Step:

With battery disconnected and key on, all safety switches in "start" positions:  put the ohms setting and test from coil - to ground.  turn the engine over by hand.  when the points close, you should get very low resistance and with them open, infinity.


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Posted February 27, 2013 - 08:20 PM

Sounds like you got the starter problem fixed.If you have time tomorrow bring the coil by and i will test it for you.


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Posted February 27, 2013 - 08:31 PM

Sounds like you got the starter problem fixed.If you have time tomorrow bring the coil by and i will test it for you.

Yep, the starter cranks over like a champ. Thanks for the help with that too. :thumbs:


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Posted February 27, 2013 - 11:00 PM

Let us know what happens with the coil.  I had a bad coil that would stop working when it was hot.  Let the machine cool and it would run until it got hot.  If I recall correctly a coil with an internal resistor from my local Napa was less than $20.


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