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"vent" For Transaxle (peerless #2504) On 1974 Mf-14

mf-14 transaxle vent peerless #2504

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Posted February 19, 2013 - 08:18 PM

Wow. Just returned the brass parts. Couple bucks? Try $18.84! Guess this is why keeping track of what you put into your GTs isn't wise.

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Posted February 19, 2013 - 09:10 PM

I don't believe that set screw is for anything else but to be sure I just threaded it back in where it was and I never moved te tractor any while refilling but I truly believe that is for venting.


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Posted February 19, 2013 - 09:14 PM

It makes sense to me.

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Posted February 20, 2013 - 09:14 AM

I don't believe that set screw is for anything else but to be sure I just threaded it back in where it was and I never moved te tractor any while refilling but I truly believe that is for venting.

 

mauser, I did some digging and this is what I've come up with thus far. The set screw appears to be connected with the operation of the shift rod; set screw rests atop a shifter fork spring which sits atop a steel ball.

 

See #20, #21, #22 in diagram on page 1 of the .pdf below.

 

Attached File  2500-2504.PDF   35.55KB   47 downloads

 

#20 792004 Steel Ball
#21 792068 Set Screw, 1/4-20 x 1/2"
#22 792003 Shifter Fork Spring

 

Then take a look at page 81of the .pdf below for a better look at the purpose of the set screw. The instructions say, "To remove the shifter rod and fork, the set screw, spring and ball should be removed at the outside of the case."

 

Attached File  peerless.pdf   4.76MB   40 downloads

 

Now I'm in a quandary. Based on the above information it would appear that if I pump ATF into the system at a high rate of speed I just might blow the spring and steel ball right out of that hole. Back to the drawing board it would appear. Thoughts?



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Posted February 20, 2013 - 12:25 PM

That plug screw is the shift detent  system.  Spring & ball under the plug.


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Posted February 20, 2013 - 01:16 PM

Just a thought here but is the plug on the side of the transaxle a LEVEL indicator?

 

Can you remove the plug,

fill the transaxle from the top until fluid comes out the side plug,

put the plug back in and the transaxle is full to the right level. ???

 

I could do this if I knew for certain that I could get 5 quarts (as it calls for) in before it started flowing out the side plug. Without a proper dipstick I wouldn't be able to open up that side plug and test to see if the ATF still reads full when the ATF stops flowing out the side plug.



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Posted February 21, 2013 - 08:45 AM

Thanks for all the info here, I no what I'm going to be doing to my tractor first thing when I get back off my vacation. Vent tub here I come.


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Posted February 22, 2013 - 08:00 PM

Thanks for all the info here, I no what I'm going to be doing to my tractor first thing when I get back off my vacation. Vent tub here I come.

 

Hey, welcome to GTTalk. It's great to have another Massey owner around. I'm a new Massey owner, just under a month or so, and am loving my rig. My other ride is a 1971 Case 444 with tiller, mower and blower. I'm toying with a new idea for a vent since I returned all my brass fittings the other day when I thought the set screw was going to work as the vent. I'll post some pics after I've played around with my new idea a bit more. Again, welcome to the forum.


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Posted February 23, 2013 - 11:01 PM

Well I bit the bullet and pulled the plug on the back side of the transaxle to see just how much ATF would come out. I needed to do this to determine which design I'd use to vent the transaxle. You see, if when I pulled the plug very little poured out then I was planning to vent straight out the back. But, if a lot drained out my plan was to take the vent straight up the back of the transaxle and come out under the seat.

 

After all was said and done I wound up with a little over 300 ml (nearly a pint) of ATF that drained out the back side drain plug. This is after filling the transaxle with 5 quarts of ATF (like the manual states) and filling the filter to the brim.

 

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That sealed the deal for me.......vent with clear tubing straight up that back of the transaxle with the vent terminating under the seat. I believe that with this much fluid flowing out the drain plug I should be able to see the level of the ATF in the clear tubing. Here is the hardware I will be using for my vent:

 

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I hope to have it installed tomorrow and I'll post some pics.

 

 


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Posted February 24, 2013 - 05:36 AM

That should vent it! You may not see the fluid given the height of the ell and barbed fitting above the hole. Good luck with this!


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Posted February 24, 2013 - 06:08 AM

Looking forward to the finished project pics.

The info in this thread will definitely help the next guy.
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