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Poll: Which came first? (31 member(s) have cast votes)

Did you get a tractor to garden, or a garden to tractor?

  1. Had garden, got tractor. (12 votes [38.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 38.71%

  2. Had tractor, got garden. (8 votes [25.81%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.81%

  3. It's complicated. I'm confused. (10 votes [32.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 32.26%

  4. The workers must seize the means of production. With tractors. (1 votes [3.23%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.23%

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#1 Reverend Blair OFFLINE  

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Posted February 16, 2013 - 12:53 PM

I kind of got into GTs because of all the landscaping and gardening I like to do, and my body doing what bodies do when you get older, but I grew up with tractors and always wanted one or two.  Of course those were farm tractors, but likely closer to GTs than the massive 4 wheel drives farmers use today.

 

Anyway, was discussing this with somebody at work the other day, and we were speculating that if small, labour-saving GTs would have been more available (i.e. smaller and cheaper) through the 70's and 80's, more people would have stuck with vegetable gardening, and that if small, cheap GTs became suddenly available people would grow more of their own food.  That led to economic speculation and pretty soon we were jabbering like Marx and Engels, which is pretty odd for a pair of red-necked farm boys. Perhaps tractors cause socialism? Probably not.

 

My co-worker and I both agreed that we likely wouldn't have big yards or gardens if we didn't have tractors though.  It's just too much work and we don't have the time.  Also, if you have a tractor you tend to invent reasons to gain a little seat time, and gardening is kind of a natural outcome of that.

 

So I was wondering how many of you got your first tractor to garden/landscape (not just mow) with, and how many began gardening because you already had a tractor and were looking for seat time.

 

 


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Posted February 16, 2013 - 01:06 PM

I got hooked when I got it as a hobby. Then I got the garden to use it more. Then I needed more implements to work it. Next was a bigger garden to have more seat time. Now with a bigger garden, I should have more. What a cycle.


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Posted February 16, 2013 - 01:17 PM

I started gardening when I bought my house back in the early 90"s.I didn't have any tractors back then. It already had a large aspagus patch next to the garden area.  I am collecting more attchments for my tractors when money becomes available. I use my troybilt tiller to prepare the soil and also throughout the growing season for weed control. Right now my garden area is 7500 sq ft not including the asparagus patch. It keeps me busy.


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Posted February 16, 2013 - 01:18 PM

All my tractors are just a hobby. I don't really need a 80 hp or a 40 hp or a 12 hp trekker - it's just for fun. And I use my tractors only for field demonstrations or journeys and so.


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Posted February 16, 2013 - 01:33 PM

A lot of ways to look at it. As for the gardens, I can't remember not having a garden to work in even as a child. When I became 14 my parents moved the 7 of us kids onto a 5 acre acerage in Newton. There was a barn and fenced in feedlot. So dad bought a milk cow and our chores was milking(by hand ) and tending the cow. That was followed by farrowing up to 12 sows.

In those days early 60's a dairy bull calf was not worth a lot. You could buy one for $5-$10 . So paper route money would raise a few calves to butcher and pay for feed.

We did not hsve a lot of money, but beef and pork on the table and produce from the garden went a long ways. Bought my first car with the $25 I had saved from pig money.

No it did not run, but I learned  a lot making it run.

I guess that started a fire in my belly that would never go out. I never got the urge to farm out of my system, but land prices and equipment went out of sight in the 70's.

Never really got there and have spent my life working in town and escaping by way of   the garden tractors that were a compromise for the urge to farm, I never feel more in my relm than when I am working or working on my tractors. Now that I'm on the acreage, maybe I can retire on the Hobby Farm that was a dream most of my life.


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Posted February 16, 2013 - 01:37 PM

It all kinda happened at the same time...

I had a late 90's GT that I found out should pull a plow...

Price of veggies jumped around here due to gas prices.

My Son decided he wanted to rescue a tractor

and I bartered for a plow, causing me to buy a sleeve hitch.

 

I guess option 2 is the closest, but #5 (Capitalism driven economics caused me to investigate) would be a close second if it were there.

 

It has since spiraled out of control (if you ask my wife) and become a major smile maker (if you ask me) but whatever the final outcome, we all have had a lot of fun with it.


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Posted February 16, 2013 - 01:50 PM

I have a tractor because my wife has five gardens.  We had a small garden, so we bought a rototiller.  Then she wanted a second and a third.  When she wanted the fourth garden, I bought a David Bradley.  When she pointed to the bush line & said "if that was only 50 feet back, I could put in a fifth garden", I bought the Allis HB112 to pull stumps, plow new ground, & speed up tilling season.  


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Posted February 16, 2013 - 02:00 PM

I've always have trouble separating capitalism and what Karl Marx said, MH81.  I've never known a small business owner who wasn't seizing the means of production, after all, and I've never known a small business owner who was a communist.  So, in my limited opinion, #4 and your theoretical #5 are pretty much the same.


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Posted February 16, 2013 - 03:28 PM

I got the WH to speed up mowing the lawn. Then the neighbor who snow plowed moved so I got a plow. The garden was rototilled for several years then it expanded and I came upon a tiller attachment.

 

When real good deals came along I'd buy another, fix it up and sell it. When the kid was 12,  I fixed a friends' Big Ten. Ricky loved it when I let him take it for the test drive. I got him a B-10 and he rode it for years. I got laid off in 2005 so, I responded to all free ads and ended up with 36+ tractors. Some I repaired and sold some I'm going to restore. They are an addiction. I was laid off again and am working on them again. The next dream project is a big barn.

 

They are a tool that allows increased production. I plan to extend the garden again this year.


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Posted February 16, 2013 - 04:58 PM

imagesCAGATD6J.jpg   Sorry, It was the garden first!


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Posted February 16, 2013 - 05:04 PM

I got hooked when I got it as a hobby. Then I got the garden to use it more. Then I needed more implements to work it. Next was a bigger garden to have more seat time. Now with a bigger garden, I should have more. What a cycle.

That seems to be where I'm heading.  

 

All my tractors are just a hobby. I don't really need a 80 hp or a 40 hp or a 12 hp trekker - it's just for fun. And I use my tractors only for field demonstrations or journeys and so.

 

Ah, so it is the journey, not the destination.

A lot of ways to look at it. As for the gardens, I can't remember not having a garden to work in even as a child. When I became 14 my parents moved the 7 of us kids onto a 5 acre acerage in Newton. There was a barn and fenced in feedlot. So dad bought a milk cow and our chores was milking(by hand ) and tending the cow. That was followed by farrowing up to 12 sows.

In those days early 60's a dairy bull calf was not worth a lot. You could buy one for $5-$10 . So paper route money would raise a few calves to butcher and pay for feed.

We did not hsve a lot of money, but beef and pork on the table and produce from the garden went a long ways. Bought my first car with the $25 I had saved from pig money.

No it did not run, but I learned  a lot making it run.

I guess that started a fire in my belly that would never go out. I never got the urge to farm out of my system, but land prices and equipment went out of sight in the 70's.

Never really got there and have spent my life working in town and escaping by way of   the garden tractors that were a compromise for the urge to farm, I never feel more in my relm than when I am working or working on my tractors. Now that I'm on the acreage, maybe I can retire on the Hobby Farm that was a dream most of my life.

 

My grandfather had 26 holsteins.  We were incredibly modern...the cream separator had an electric motor instead of a hand crank.  Most were milked by machine and you carried the milk to the separator, but there were a couple who insisted on the personal treatment.  

 

My uncle (other side of the family) had 55 holsteins.  Then he had more (another shift, can't remember the total).  The milk went through tubes into a tank in the milk house.  Less work, but the cows were less cooperative.  #3 kicked me so many times that I'm pretty sure she had a schoolgirl crush on me.  Either that or she really hated me.

 

Both had chickens and pigs.  Both had grain and hay.  The chickens and the garden were pretty much for the women and children to look after, except for slaughtering chickens and tilling/plating the garden. 

 

I've been trying to escape the city life for most of my life too. Hate crowds, not really that fond of people.  Never wanted to farm...saw how hard it was and how it was changing...but can't shake that farming bug.  In the spring I must plant. In the fall I must harvest.  So I express that through gardening.

I have a tractor because my wife has five gardens.  We had a small garden, so we bought a rototiller.  Then she wanted a second and a third.  When she wanted the fourth garden, I bought a David Bradley.  When she pointed to the bush line & said "if that was only 50 feet back, I could put in a fifth garden", I bought the Allis HB112 to pull stumps, plow new ground, & speed up tilling season.  

My wife sticks mostly to flowers. I let her because if I didn't she'd just do it anyway. She's a lot like me in that way.

 

I got the WH to speed up mowing the lawn. Then the neighbor who snow plowed moved so I got a plow. The garden was rototilled for several years then it expanded and I came upon a tiller attachment.

 

When real good deals came along I'd buy another, fix it up and sell it. When the kid was 12,  I fixed a friends' Big Ten. Ricky loved it when I let him take it for the test drive. I got him a B-10 and he rode it for years. I got laid off in 2005 so, I responded to all free ads and ended up with 36+ tractors. Some I repaired and sold some I'm going to restore. They are an addiction. I was laid off again and am working on them again. The next dream project is a big barn.

 

They are a tool that allows increased production. I plan to extend the garden again this year.

 

Sorry to hear about the lay-offs.  Been there. Will likely be there again some day. Never good.

 

Sounds like you've been seizing the means of production though.  Repair/resale work is good...keeps things useful and helps people at the same time. And you get to make a buck while waiting for other work.


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Posted February 16, 2013 - 05:13 PM

Bought a Gravely with bush hog to clear some land at my father's house.  Kept tractor, built a V-plow and used it on an area record snowfall of around 18 inches the year my oldest was born.  Moved into a house, started a garden partly for "gourmet" veggies and partly so I could enjoy using the rotary plow.   Once I got my Massey, though, I just had to get a plow and see if I could recreate my farming childhood.


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Posted February 16, 2013 - 05:37 PM

Have always been farmers and gardeners--- kind of dificult to separate the two. Started with a spade and potatoe fork back in the fifties, now that's back-breaking work regardless the size of the garden! Then came a little bone jarring walk behind tiller. Olde Deere #1 said not to complain, lots of people pay good money at a gym to get a workout like that. Then I found my little Honda walk-behind and I'm a happy gardener. The J.D.g.t. came when the lawns got to more than seven hours of push-mower time, and the poor hip replacement job was a good reason to get a second.


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Posted February 16, 2013 - 06:25 PM

As others have stated my tractors and attachments are my hobby so I guess I fall into the "I have all the equipment if I should ever decide to start gardening category",who knows maybe this might be the year I put out a garden. :D


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Posted February 16, 2013 - 10:23 PM

Well growing up on a farm we had a garden as well as the field crops.  The garden was about 60 x 100 and at the end of one of our fields and we plowed it when the field was plowed.  It was then planted by hand after the rows were made with a homemade furrow maker pulled by a 106 Cub Cadet.  The rest of the work was done with a walk behind front tine tiller or with a hoe and small weeds were pulled by hand.  Jump ahead to my first GT.  I was working at Central Tractor at the time and a very good customer came in and bought a new AYP built tractor and blade.  He said he was replacing and old worn out Cub Cadet.  Being a farm tractor collector I felt the Cub Cadet would fit in nicely with our collection.  The price was right and he threw in an old Montgomery Wards MTD lawn tractor as well.  That Cub Cadet is the 73 that I still own.  From there it just sort of snowballed and between me and my dad we now have about twenty garden tractors and the farm tractor collection has grown as well to 17.  The attachments came as we went along and found ones we wanted for the collection.  The ususal mower deck, snowblade, and snowblower, as well as Brinley plow(both sleeve hitch and cat O), Brinley disk, Brinley cultivator, and a Pincor generator.  The garden has been gone for a few seasons but may make a return this year.  If it doesn't though the only reason I have to keep all these tractors is to mow yard and move snow.  The Brinley plows made their debut only because I wanted to start going to plowdays and I don't use them otherwise.


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