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Posted February 11, 2013 - 05:22 PM

Do all the tube frame leave the front end of the pipe open? Mine are open under the grill and are out of round some. If they had caps in them like the back end does, they wouldn't mash as much.

 

Back of Tube frame at trans-axle.

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Front of tube hidden by grill and front axle support.

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Posted February 11, 2013 - 06:03 PM

None of the tube frames used Caps on the front .. it would be a Good idea tho .. how ever some used 2 bars (4 in total) in the frame ( 12" 1 3/4" 1/8"?) to keep it from Squashing and trust me they will squash if they are not there


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Posted February 11, 2013 - 08:50 PM

I see a hole in the side on the front end, does it have a nut or bolt there you have to access through the end?


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Posted February 11, 2013 - 08:53 PM

The front end of the tubes were open.

 

Normally the tubes stayed intact but a few times there would be cases where people would be plowing snow and raming the plows into the pile which would loosen the 4 bolts and crush the tubes.

 

In the early 70's a "Frame reinforcement" Kit was made available to correct the problem.


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Posted February 11, 2013 - 09:25 PM

The front end of the tubes were open.

 

Normally the tubes stayed intact but a few times there would be cases where people would be plowing snow and raming the plows into the pile which would loosen the 4 bolts and crush the tubes.

 

In the early 70's a "Frame reinforcement" Kit was made available to correct the problem.

Any idea what it looked like? I have 5 tube frames and atleast 3 have frame problems. At one piont I was thinking about finding pipes and making new frames.



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Posted February 11, 2013 - 09:28 PM

Any idea what it looked like? I have 5 tube frames and atleast 3 have frame problems. At one piont I was thinking about finding pipes and making new frames.

 

I have the 1 page service Bulletin

If I remember correctly it has a drawing of them.

Will get it uploaded in a day or two....


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Posted February 11, 2013 - 10:26 PM

I see a hole in the side on the front end, does it have a nut or bolt there you have to access through the end?

 

Ryan, On the Tube Frame tractors, everything bolts thru the tube, this end is crushed from the front axle support being tightened a few times and the pipe ovaling it's shape causing the bolts to come loose and then being re-tightened.

 

I hope that makes sense to you. I don't always explain things well. :wallbanging:


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Posted February 12, 2013 - 08:44 AM

would panzers be classified as a tube frame?  lol



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Posted February 12, 2013 - 03:22 PM

I have 2-1256's that had the same problem. I cut the crushed ends off and replaced them with new tube the same size. I bought tube that fit perfectly inside the frame tubes, and plug welded them in and re-drilled all of the holes. It is much stronger than original and you can't even tell.


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Posted February 12, 2013 - 03:28 PM

Do all the tube frame leave the front end of the pipe open? Mine are open under the grill and are out of round some. If they had caps in them like the back end does, they wouldn't mash as much.

 

Back of Tube frame at trans-axle.

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Front of tube hidden by grill and front axle support.

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The mice have to live somewhere...


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Posted February 13, 2013 - 11:22 AM

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Posted February 13, 2013 - 11:58 AM

Thanks Doc., :thumbs:

 

Is that a pipe bushing for the bolt to slide thru or a piece of something else?



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Posted February 13, 2013 - 01:30 PM

I just looked at a 1050 which the owner dismantled the whole machine and filled the tubes with lead and plugged both ends with steel plugs he machined to prevent the bolts from crushing the tubes.

I thought it was overkill until I read this post. I've not yet owned a tube frame myself.

I can't imagine the process it took to fill the frame with lead, but he uses the thing to plow a garden and push snow, so the added weight would be more than welcome.


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Posted February 14, 2013 - 06:42 AM

Thanks Doc., :thumbs:

 

Is that a pipe bushing for the bolt to slide thru or a piece of something else?

 

Looks like its just 2 bushings that help strengthen the tubes from crushing. I'm not sure though as I never seen a kit on one in person...


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Posted February 14, 2013 - 10:05 AM

Is that a pipe bushing for the bolt to slide thru or a piece of something else?

 

I'm not sure, because I never saw one of these kits either, but according to the text in the service bulletin, I'm thinking it is 4 pieces of flat-stock set in place to straddle the bolts  ....The width of the flat-stock will keep them from "tilting" and tightening the bolts should keep the reinforcements from sliding rearward.

 

The text says: "...insert two (2) into each frame tubing ...with front end flush with end of tubing."

 

I can't see the bottom illustration on the service bulletin clearly.  .....Any help, Brian?


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