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#61 Titus OFFLINE  

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Posted March 16, 2013 - 12:22 PM

I have not tested the reg yet either.



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Posted March 16, 2013 - 01:47 PM

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Posted March 16, 2013 - 04:13 PM

Titus,

 

I've added numbers to your photo. For each number identify what each end is connected to.

 

I see a couple suspicious connections but I need to know what each wire goes to. Also, my switch looked identical to yours and I wire wheeled it. 

 

I'll compare your wires with mine once you send me the list of where each wire goes (both ends). Thanks. 

 

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Posted March 16, 2013 - 06:46 PM

1 Gen light which goes to a splitter & to the coil which is #12

2 Gen light to the back of the Volt Reg

3 To starter gen

4 volt reg to pos side of solenoid

5 Volt reg to key switch

6 Neg Batt to ground

7 Pos Batt to Solenoid

8 other side of solenoid to starter gen

9 small post on solenoid next to 14 to key switch

10 back of volt reg to other side of solenoid where #8 cable connects

11 that connects the #1 & #12 to the key switch

12 To coil

13 Key Switch to Headlights



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Posted March 16, 2013 - 08:46 PM

1 Gen light which goes to a splitter & to the coil which is #12

2 Gen light to the back of the Volt Reg

3 To starter gen

4 volt reg to pos side of solenoid

5 Volt reg to key switch

6 Neg Batt to ground

7 Pos Batt to Solenoid

8 other side of solenoid to starter gen

9 small post on solenoid next to 14 to key switch

10 back of volt reg to other side of solenoid where #8 cable connects

11 that connects the #1 & #12 to the key switch

12 To coil

13 Key Switch to Headlights

 

Try this:

 

FIRST------9 small post on solenoid next to 14 to key switch [The #9 wire needs to be connected to the #14 post and then on to the key switch.]

 

SECOND-----[You are missing a wire that runs between the post to the left of post #14 in your picture. The wire goes between the left post on the solenoid and the PTO safety switch that's connected to the neutral safety switch....both located under the dash where the forward and reverse lever goes into the dash; #5 & #20 in the diagram below.]

 

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The question I have is about the wires connected to the posts on the starter generator; OUTER and INNER posts. If you wouldn't mind checking to make sure that the wire connected to the OUTER post is connected to the far left post on the regulator and the wire connected to the INNER post is connected to the negative (or in your description the "other" side of the solenoid.

 

The posts on your key switch should be labeled S, B, I, L (or something like that). Wire #13 should connect with the L post on the key switch. Wire #9 should connect with the S post on the key switch. Wire #5 should connect with the B post on the key switch. Wire #11 should connect with the I post on the key switch.

 

I would suggest that you take a wire wheel to the back of the ignition switch (if you haven't done that already) and lightly "dust" off the rust and gunk. Then I would test the regulator to confirm that it is working as expected. Finally, I would make sure that wherever you connect your ground is VERY clean (down to metal) and well connected to the frame.

 

Given that you are missing a wire to the PTO safety (see fuchsia colored wire in diagram below) and the #9 wire is on the incorrect post (see blue colored wire in diagram below) my hope is that this will solve your problem. Here's to hoping.


Edited by Moosetales, March 16, 2013 - 08:57 PM.


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Posted March 16, 2013 - 08:50 PM

I know what I am doing tomorrow! Awesome, thank you very much, I will let you know tomorrow!


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Posted March 16, 2013 - 11:00 PM

I must have missed this when the power was out here? Congrats on the Case! :thumbs:

 

I hate seeing you have to spend time trying to get this one running. If you want I can take it off your hands so you can spend more time on the BH's :D :D :D



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Posted March 17, 2013 - 09:46 AM

Yeah HA! The BHs don't like this orange beast that's bigger than them in the garage.

 

So far I swapped the wires on the solenoid.

 

FIRST------9 small post on solenoid next to 14 to key switch [The #9 wire needs to be connected to the #14 post and then on to the key switch.]

 

I did that and got nothing. Left of #14 there is a wire there that does go to the F&R safety switch.

 

Starter Gen wiring is correct. I also recleaned the ground connection.

 

 

They key switch was pretty bad when I got it, that I couldn't make out any letters on the back. I wrote on the back what I believe is the correct positions by looking at a new key switch diagram.

 

I'm going to check the key switch connections again and report back.



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Posted March 17, 2013 - 09:57 AM

Bummer! Turn the key on and touch each post until the lights come on. That will help u id which post is which.

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Posted March 17, 2013 - 03:38 PM

Alright, I see that I have voltage going to the key switch, and after some playing around, I see that I now have headlights on the 1st turn, Gen light comes on the 2nd turn, but nothing on the 3rd. I am getting closer....



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Posted March 17, 2013 - 03:43 PM

And all the wiring on the back of the key switch is correct now, but still not turning over.



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Posted March 17, 2013 - 04:14 PM

Sorry you are having an issue, hope you figure it out.

 

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Posted March 17, 2013 - 04:37 PM

I had an extra solenoid and installed it to rule that out at this point, still nothing. If I jump it, then it turns right over.



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Posted March 17, 2013 - 05:09 PM

I checked my key switch with voltage meter, along with solenoid. Key switch is fine, solenoid, 3 of the 4 terminals are putting out voltage. The only one that isn't is the terminal going to the starter gen. And that's with the key turned all the way holding it. 

 

So no voltage is being put out to the S/G. Something is preventing that from happening.


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Posted March 17, 2013 - 05:42 PM

Silly question...have you tested to make sure your coil is acting as it should; removed all connections and clean to remove crud, test to see it coil works, etc.

Are you referring to the new solenoid now or the original one?




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