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#1 ccfoshee OFFLINE  

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Posted September 20, 2010 - 10:38 AM

Recently bought a Bolens 850 with a deck (no attachment linkage), snow blower, and blade. The guy I bought it from jump started it at his house (battery was dead). I got it home, put a fresh battery in it and it started up well. The clutch was frozen up so I took the whole thing a part (down to the chassis) and proceeded to freshen it up. In the process, I changed all the fluids, painted and rewired the whole thing - total time about 2 weeks.

So I got it all together and went to start it for the first time...click...

Proceed to test all wiring, the solenoid, and starter. All check out. Tried to manually crank the engine with a wrench. Turned out to be VERY hard to turn. It has since loosened up a just a little, but still much harder to turn than the engine in my AC B-10.

What in the world could have happened in 2 weeks? So frustrated...

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Posted September 20, 2010 - 10:40 AM

I haven't opened up the engine yet, but that is on my list...

Gotta get this thing going before the snow comes.

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Posted September 20, 2010 - 11:01 AM

Welcome to GTtalk
Is there anything in the clutch that might not be right?
I am not real fimiliar with the Bolens clutch. Maybe one of our Bolens guys will chime in.

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Posted September 20, 2010 - 11:17 AM

Welcome to GTT!

Try turning the engine with the belt tensioner off. Or better yet if you can get the belts off the pulley on the engine you can tell for sure if its the engine or clutch.
The clutch has an adjustment and if its raised to high it will be rubbing on the plate....

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Posted September 20, 2010 - 11:20 AM

Tell you what... I'm going to move this thread to the Bolens Forum :thumbs:

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Posted September 20, 2010 - 11:45 AM

It's definitely the engine (hence why I originally posted in the engine section). I have the PTO off and the drive selector in between the Hi/Low settings, so there are no belts on the back part of the motor. I am afraid I will see some bent valves or something when I open it up.

Just doesn't make sense when it ran fine about 2 weeks ago...

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Posted September 20, 2010 - 11:51 AM

Is the starter still hooked up with the belt on?

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Posted September 20, 2010 - 11:52 AM

ccfoshee :welcometogttalk:glad to have you here.

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Posted September 20, 2010 - 02:37 PM

No, sir, the belt is off the starter.

I went so far as to remove the pulley and turn the crank using the flywheel nut - took a LARGE amount of effort...

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Posted September 20, 2010 - 03:28 PM

Well you got me stumped on this one then....
I really cant think of why it would be so hard to turn just from sitting.
Did it do anything funny when it was shut off last?

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Posted September 20, 2010 - 03:46 PM

Any shields or belt guides bolt to the back plate of the engine? If so, could it be a too long bolt is going through & hitting/rubbing something? Seems it's gotta be something like that if engine was fine when shut off. Being you worked on stuff, I figure it might be related. No reflection on you either way....I've done similar. Just a thought.

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Posted September 20, 2010 - 05:08 PM

The only thing I can think of is the right belt guide . The bolt does thread right into the inside of the motor.......

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Posted September 21, 2010 - 08:20 AM

Well, gents, mystery solved...

I was taking the heat shields off the back of the engine and the belt guides. Got around to the front to take the flywheel pulley off and all of a sudden the darn thing was spinning free and easy.

Seems I had the belt guides and heat shield bolted in the wrong order causing the belt guides to ride just a little too proud from the back of the engine - thereby interfering with the rear pulleys.

Got it all fixed up and started right up...

I'll have to put some pics up eventually.

Thanks for all your ideas and help. Glad it wasn't engine internals.

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Posted September 21, 2010 - 08:44 AM

Well, gents, mystery solved...

Glad it wasn't engine internals.


I'm glad too! And I was darn close on the problem! LOL

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Posted September 21, 2010 - 08:54 AM

Glad you figured it out.




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