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#76 Moosetales OFFLINE  

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Posted February 09, 2013 - 02:55 PM

At least it didn't just throw it. Looks like it went through the blower!

 

While I was putting it back on...after I threw it the first time...I noticed several LARGE cracks so I knew she'd probably blow. The rest of the belt is still on the thrower so I'm pretty sure the belt never got close to the auger....thank goodness.


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Posted February 09, 2013 - 03:06 PM

You'll be finding bits and pieces next Spring!


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Posted February 09, 2013 - 04:57 PM

OK Moose, you are in the clear now. :thumbs: I needed to read more posts to catch up on the Massey issues. :wallbanging:

 

Sorry you lost the belt, but MAN that thing was throwing the snow out there, doing a good job from what I could see. :dancingbanana:

 

Thanks for posting!


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Posted February 09, 2013 - 07:29 PM

The first time out with a new machine is always an adventure.  :D   Sounds really good!


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Posted February 10, 2013 - 09:53 AM

Oh, that's too bad, about the belt taking the 14 out of the action.

On the bright side, now you can go over it, with a fine toothed comb, so it works

flawlessly for the next snowfall.


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Posted February 10, 2013 - 04:47 PM

The sun is out....temps are warm(er)......and I got a chance to take a real good look at the Massey this afternoon. Here's what I found:

 

The manual says, "Check dipstick under seat, when oil is cold, to make certain transmission, differential and hydraulic system are properly filled with M-1110." Ummmmmmm, glad the belt broke cause I made a rookie mistake and neglected to check the transmission/hydraulic fluid level and I'm not sure it was at full capacity. This is what I found.

 

Dipstick.....didn't think they were as short as this one is and I've never seen one where the end is slanted (as if it's been broken off) and that doesn't have an indicator when Full. Obviously I could not determine the level of the fluid since I did not have a proper length stick, so I drained the transmission.

 

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The top of the plug had some pretty gunky sediment on it (left smear below).

 

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The plug its self is magnetic.......just learning this today.......and had collected a plethora of tiny metal fragments (from where I do not know).

 

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So the transmission is drained. I've just learned that M-1110 is MF version of ATF (such as Dexron III ATF).

 

Next, I found another oddity, there is a about an 1/2" to 1" space between the hood and the dash. Hmmmmmmm?

 

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Upon closer examination I also noticed that lift mechanism (I think that's what it is) that connects to the mower deck (again, I think that's what it is) is not centered in the hole in the frame where it's intended to go (this is on the left side of the tractor when sitting in the seat)

 

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Notice that this pin (best word I could come up with) is not sitting in the hole as it's suppose to (same side of the tractor just the front "pin).

 

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You might be able to notice in the pictures below how some of the "pins" on the left and right side of the tractor (down where my feet will go) are centered and straight while others are out of their holes and not aligned properly.

 

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I'll also post a video in a bit that shows the large amount of play in the steering wheel that I need to address.

 

So, I appreciate your feedback and help in unraveling these mysteries. Thanks.


Edited by Moosetales, February 10, 2013 - 10:45 PM.

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Posted February 10, 2013 - 05:30 PM

What a great find! You have a really nice Mf 14.It is always cool to find those hidden gems.Congrats and enjoy. I believe your mf is so nice I would not restore it. I would keep up on the mantence and enjoy.  :thumbs:


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Posted February 10, 2013 - 06:29 PM

The hood is a simple adjustment of the grill angle.  I'm guessing the pins could be spot welded in place.


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Posted February 10, 2013 - 07:47 PM

I thought I had a paper copy of the snowthrower manual, but I guess I don't. Looked everywhere.

What I did find in my laptop, was a manual for the Snapper 4220 thrower.

Alot of similarities. maybe that's what I was thinking about.


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Posted February 10, 2013 - 08:25 PM

I am wondering if when you get all those pins lined up, if the frame won't pop back in place... :D

I think (if it's like the lift bkts on the 12h) that the rods, spacers, and frame width all work together to keep stuff in place.
I agree that if stuff won't stay, you may have to spot weld, but with as good as everything else looks, it might just be as simple as putting everything right.
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Posted February 10, 2013 - 09:27 PM

Your tranny has ATF in it. I cant remember what type though.


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Posted February 10, 2013 - 09:36 PM

Your tranny has ATF in it. I cant remember what type though.

JD's use Type F in the hydros.


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Posted February 10, 2013 - 10:20 PM

Your tranny has ATF in it. I cant remember what type though.

 

Oh boy I'm confused. The manual references using M-1110 but then below that it states, "NOTE: 10W/40 engine oil (API Service Classification "SE" or "CC") is recommended for heavy-duty or high temperature operation." My Case takes motor oil (I use Rotella) in the hydro system so I guess I'm mixing my machines up.

 

JD's use Type F in the hydros.

 

Does your JD take 10W/40 (or some kind of engine oil) for high heat or heavy-duty operation? Guess I need to search for M-1110 and see what that stuff is.



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Posted February 10, 2013 - 10:35 PM

Your tranny has ATF in it. I cant remember what type though.

 

I use Dexron III ATF in mine. I think most guys do.

 

M-1110 would be MF's fluid. I've never seen it myself.


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Posted February 10, 2013 - 10:40 PM

I use Dexron III ATF in mine. I think most guys do.

 

M-1110 would be MF's fluid. I've never seen it myself.

 

The manual says the max capacity is 5 quarts. I presume I'm reading that correctly? Since I have 3/4 of a dipstick (not sure what happened to the rest....unless all MF dipsticks are as short as mine pictured previously) I won't be able to check the fluid level until I can land myself a new dipstick. Thanks.






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