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#1 David Brown OFFLINE  

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Posted February 03, 2013 - 01:59 PM

I am having some issues with my 2414.  Instead of asking what the problem is and getting 100 things to try, I will ask this (because I think this is the problem).  What are the symptoms of a bad condenser?



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Posted February 03, 2013 - 02:03 PM

Some will run fine win first cranked and then start to backfire


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Posted February 03, 2013 - 02:11 PM

Jeff, you might try running one in parallel with the one in there.  Might be able to do that without opening it up.


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Posted February 03, 2013 - 02:15 PM

Had to find the post I was talking about...

http://gardentractor...ck/#entry199770


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Posted February 03, 2013 - 04:03 PM

Well the thing doesn't backfire at all.  In fact, it runs really nice.  Every now and then it will just die.  I know what you're thinking... coil.  Well, with a coil you have to wait until it cools down for the engine to start again.  I don't have to do that here.  I can put it on idle, turn the key and it will start again, right away.  Then I ease back into the throttle and continue to work until it does it again.  I thought I had this problem fixed a few weeks back when I fould the coil cable wasn't making the best contact.  It had backed off the top of the coil.  Weird I know but that's what it did.  I pushed it down in and haven't had any problems until today.  Today I may work for two minutes then it shuts down.  Then I may work for an hour before it does it again.  There's no saving it when it shuts off.  It's done.  Nothing helps until its completely off and I turn the key again.  This is why I'm almost certain it's a spark issue.

 

Alan, thanks for the suggestion but my condenser is external and a breeze to change.  I have no problem going and getting one (I'll probably get two to have a spare), I just want to avoid making multiple trips since out govenrment seems to think that higher gas prices are "in" again.

 

So, now you know the problem.  I am considering selling this tractor but I wont until I know it's right.

 

I've also heard of the ammeter causing problems in the electrical circuit but never a problem like this.  Given the fact that it worked for weeks and then all of the sudden did it again makes it very dificult to diagnose.



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Posted February 03, 2013 - 04:11 PM

That is strange! I have no idea why it would do that. Condensers are cheap, so I have learned to just replace it when I think it is bad.

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Posted February 03, 2013 - 04:13 PM

Long shot, but check the vent hole isn't pluged in the gas cap.


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Posted February 03, 2013 - 04:19 PM

I had a similar problem on a 14 horse gravely. It was the ignition/key switch.


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Posted February 03, 2013 - 04:26 PM

Long shot, but check the vent hole isn't pluged in the gas cap.

I think its fine but doesn't take anything to check.  Thanks.



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Posted February 03, 2013 - 04:26 PM

I had a similar problem on a 14 horse gravely. It was the ignition/key switch.

I was thinking about that as well.  I may have a spare.  I'll have to look this week.  Thanks.



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Posted February 03, 2013 - 04:28 PM

I was thinking about that as well.  I may have a spare.  I'll have to look this week.  Thanks.

Just by pass it and try it.



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Posted February 03, 2013 - 07:56 PM

I had a similar problem on a 14 horse gravely. It was the ignition/key switch.

I would agree with this.

 

When it quits you will turn the switch to restart and it makes contact again.



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Posted February 03, 2013 - 08:02 PM

It does make sense.



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Posted February 03, 2013 - 08:18 PM

I am not sure what you are talking about with the ignition; can somebody explain it?

What if when it is dying, you turn the key off then back on... Really fast? I am sure we have all tried to see how long we can turn the key off for, then back on without it stalling. Same principle. Lol!

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Posted February 04, 2013 - 10:40 AM

Well rats.  I thought I had this problem kicked.  I had some time this morning so I looked around to see if I had another ignition switch.  I did, and after a good comparison, I found them to be the same so I went for it.  I installed the spare and started the tractor.  It ran and ran well.  I let it warm up a little and decided to plow a little snow around the barn to see if my problem was solved.  Yesterday it cut out on me when I pulled out so I figured it wouldn't be long.  I pulled out without any issues and started pushing a little snow.  It was working great and I thought I was in the clear.  After about 5 minutes, it died again.  I tried Ryans suggestion and turned the key off and back on real quick.  Nothing.  I brought it down to idle, let it stop, turned the key and I was running again.  I put it away without another issue.  I'm starting to think that perhaps my coil cable is breaking down.  I suppose that's possible.  This is getting frustrating because this tractor runs so well and is just a beast.  I HATE electrical problems!






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