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#1 New.Canadian.DB.Owner OFFLINE  

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Posted January 30, 2013 - 08:53 PM

This is a follow-up posting to my Great Customer Service posting.  Paint day has come & gone.  Here are the results.

 

The sample paint was a 340g rattle can of Old Caterpillar Yellow manufactured (or distributed) by Rust Check.  The test areas were the left & right side panels from my Allis HB112.  The areas were prepared by: 1) scuff sanding to various degrees of bare metal with 100 grit paper, 2) soap and water wash, 3) Methyl Hydrate rinse, and 4) drying.   The drying room was temperature controlled at 20*C (68*F) and 37% humidity.  Except where noted below, the areas were left to dry for about 90 minutes between coats.

 

Impressions:  The spray nozzle is of the standard design, but has the wide horizontal slit which gives a vertical fan spray pattern (don't ask me how). It is, therefore, prone to the "painted trigger finger" flaw.  The wide slit / vertical spray pattern took some getting use to, as I am more use to the Tremclad round hole which gives a conical spray pattern.  The major difference is that the conical pattern gives two coats with each pass (leading & trailing edge of the cone) whereas the vertical pattern gives only one coat per pass.  This allows for thinner coats, but that has its own drawbacks for this paint.

 

That drawback is related to the drying time between coats.  Tremclad and other rattle cans have a 1-2 hour re-coat window: you can re-coat within the window or after 1 or 2 days.  This means the paint is still tacky, or non-dry, when the next coat goes on.  This paint has a 90 minute no re-coat period: the paint must be completely dry (90 minutes) before re-coating.  While this liberates the painter from timers, it dramatically increases the overall paint cycle when combined with the single coat per pass mentioned above.

 

So, how much does it extend the paint cycle?  Well, I needed 6 coats to get a satisfactory covering.  For you with Arithmophobia (math-phobia) that is 5 drying periods, or 450 minutes, or 7.5 hours.  Mine was extended even further in that a sleep overtook me between coats 5 & 6.

 

As you can see from the pictures, my coat count was likely excessive in that the coats are on the thin side in an effort to build layers without getting runs.  Eventually, I will get to know how thick I can make a coat without getting runs.  The last few coats were thicker than the first few.

 

Before coat 6, I took some time to examine the results and compare them to a control area I did with Tremclad Rust Paint (Gloss Black).  While the Tremclad only took 4 coats & 90 minute to paint, it was still tacky after 18 hours of drying.  The Rust Check parts were dry and hard as nails.  But for the colour sanding & polishing, they were ready to install.  In the end, the Rust Check paint was faster from start to install, even with the higher coat count, and the end result will be equal if not better.

 

 

Recommendation:  I like the paint and will definitely use it again.

 

 

Left panel - outer side

 

 

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Left panel - inner side

 

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Right panel - outer side

 

 

 

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Right panel - inner side

 

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Posted January 30, 2013 - 09:04 PM

So I need 6 cans of John Deere Green---------------tomorrow, joking.  It does sound like the Rust Check is a good product.

Thank for the time you pu into the testing and then lettin us know your results.

 

Dick


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Posted January 30, 2013 - 09:23 PM

Wow! Great write up and thanks for the pics. They add much to the story. I too find that the "fan" spray gets on my finger and eventually makes a mess of things.


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Posted January 30, 2013 - 09:45 PM

So overall you like the new stuff you just found? You didn't lay down any primer?

 

Thanks so much for posting this info and I will be contacting that lead you gave me. :thumbs:


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Posted January 30, 2013 - 09:48 PM

So overall you like the new stuff you just found? You didn't lay down any primer?

 

Thanks so much for posting this info and I will be contacting that lead you gave me. :thumbs:

 

Yes, I like it. The Rust Check rep said not to use primer.


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Posted January 30, 2013 - 09:53 PM

Will you post some pictures and info on how it looks after sanding please.



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Posted January 30, 2013 - 10:16 PM

Will you post some pictures and info on how it looks after sanding please.

I haven't decided whether I'll colour sand & polish these parts yet.  At this point, I'm doing a revival, not a restoration.  That competes with my desire to do a full testing of the paint.  More thought required...


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Posted January 31, 2013 - 05:17 AM

Looks pretty good.I think I'd have used primer anyway,ever though the guy said not to.



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Posted January 31, 2013 - 08:01 AM

Thanks for all the info and pics, did I miss a price quote on this product?

 

Just followed link doesn't seem to be too widely available here in the states, however they'd probably ship it if needed.

http://rustcheck.com...ry=0&Itemid=106


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Posted January 31, 2013 - 08:47 AM

Thanks for sharing the results of your testing.  Did the rep say why no primer?  Does this paint work similar to Rust-Oleum rust inhibitor?  The panels come out looking very nice in the photo's. I'll be interested in seeing the final results.



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Posted January 31, 2013 - 09:33 AM

Without primer, it takes way more paint for even color.  Sounds like the rep knows he can sell a LOT more paint by advising against primer use.  3 coats would likely be plenty when used with a complete even coat of primer....maybe even just 2 coats.


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Posted January 31, 2013 - 02:52 PM

Without primer, it takes way more paint for even color.  Sounds like the rep knows he can sell a LOT more paint by advising against primer use.  3 coats would likely be plenty when used with a complete even coat of primer....maybe even just 2 coats.

 

 

I wondered if that was the reason also??



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Posted January 31, 2013 - 06:46 PM

Thanks for taking the time to share this



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Posted February 01, 2013 - 09:39 AM

I have put the three questions posed above (primer, Texas, & colours) to the CSR via email.  He will call me later today.  I'll post a summary of his answers.

 

 

 

Thanks for all the info and pics, did I miss a price quote on this product?

 

Just followed link doesn't seem to be too widely available here in the states, however they'd probably ship it if needed.

http://rustcheck.com...ry=0&Itemid=106

I paid just shy of $10 a can, about the same as Tremclad.  Speaking of which, I had another look at the parts I painted with Tremclad as a control sample.  They are still slightly soft & tacky.  I got really inconsistent coverage, which was likely a function of the shape of the parts (L shaped). But the real surprise was in the gloss.  I had some nice shinny areas & others that were almost flat black in texture.  Not happy with the way they came out.  

 

Will you post some pictures and info on how it looks after sanding please.

 

I'm not going to colour sand and polish these pieces.  I didn't spend enough time getting them flat.  I did, however, wet sand them with 3M 600 grit and give them one last coat.  Here are the results.  More than adequate for a revival, IMHO. 

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Posted February 02, 2013 - 12:09 AM

It's looks good. thanks for sanding and posting.

 

And thank you for forwarding our questions to the Rep.







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