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#1 bowtiebutler956 OFFLINE  

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Posted January 29, 2013 - 08:29 PM

 This is a 48 Briggs NS that I picked up recentley. The NS was the only Model N to use a suction feed carburetor, rather than the two piece flowjet carburetor. When I got the engine, it was missing the gas tank, tank bracket, and fuel line. I had an extra tank, and fuel line, but I had to make the bracket. The NS uses the same tank bracket as a WI, so I just copied the bracket off one of my WI's, which was very easy since its only a piece of steel strap. As you can see in the video, it smokes just a little, but I'm sure after it gets honed, and gets a set of new rings it will be just fine. I'll start the resto on this one in the next couple days. I really like these little model N's, and every time I see a sub-model of this line, that I don't have yet, I just have to own it. Its a sickness! :bigrofl: I love being able to come here, and talk to others that suffer from very similar illness to my own! :thumbs:

 

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Posted January 29, 2013 - 08:43 PM

That's cool! I can wait to start working on the N model that's on my old David Bradley.


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Posted January 29, 2013 - 09:18 PM

Don't know if I wasn't just paying attention, but never seen a N with the tank mounted off the block that way. Boy it would be nice to take a look at all your engines Matt. I bet it would be almost like walking through a briggs museum.


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Posted January 29, 2013 - 09:22 PM

Been a  fan of your work!  Love this engine, but FWIW given that the smoke is occasional and white, I'm thinking water (or ethanol) in the gas, more than rings.  Either way, love the work you do!  Keep the photos & videos coming!



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Posted January 29, 2013 - 10:01 PM

Don't know if I wasn't just paying attention, but never seen a N with the tank mounted off the block that way. Boy it would be nice to take a look at all your engines Matt. I bet it would be almost like walking through a briggs museum.

 Nate the NS is the only one in the N lineup that used this type of gas tank, and mount. As well as the only one to use the Briggs Type G suction carburetor. I've been looking for one for awhile, and was very happy to find one, as you don't see them very often. Thank for the compliment, and I may start a thread soon that I can show at least a couple pics of each of my engines. As soon as I'm done with this NS, I'll get started on my Bolens 8R6 that you so kindly gave me a gas tank for. :thumbs:

 

 

That's cool! I can wait to start working on the N model that's on my old David Bradley.

Thanks, and my David Bradley N is probabally one of my most favorite engines. Gotta love those mechanicle governors. :thumbs:

 

 

Been a  fan of your work!  Love this engine, but FWIW given that the smoke is occasional and white, I'm thinking water (or ethanol) in the gas, more than rings.  Either way, love the work you do!  Keep the photos & videos coming!

 Thanks! The tank is clean, and I used the same 93 octane fuel in it as I use in my other engines, but I'll know for sure after it gets rebuilt/restored. I really hate the ethanol in todays fuel. I can't even use cork gaskets in my carburetors anymore. The last time I did, the gasket swole up so much, that it held the float open! :mad2:

 

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Posted January 29, 2013 - 10:45 PM

Nice little Briggs, first Ns I have seen.  Amazing how those things can sit somewhere for ever and be brought back to life with a good points cleaning and some fresh gas.......


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Posted January 29, 2013 - 10:54 PM

Matt, That is the first engine like that I've seen. It is very COOL!! I'm glad to know that you know so much about little Briggs engines.

 

I hope to get down your way one of these days and see this collection of yours.

 

Thanks for sharing all of them with us.


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Posted January 30, 2013 - 12:09 AM

  As soon as I'm done with this NS, I'll get started on my Bolens 8R6 that you so kindly gave me a gas tank for. :thumbs:

Your Welcome for the tank. When you have extras laying around might as well let someone else have it to use. Kinda like the output shaft for my NPR6 you sent my way. Thanks again Matt  :thumbs:


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Posted January 30, 2013 - 05:16 AM

Cool little Briggs engine.


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Posted February 09, 2013 - 06:36 PM

 I finally got around to starting the restoration. I tore it down today, and found a great looking cylinder, but the rod looked pretty bad. Initially I thought the crank looked bad as well, but after polishing it with some 3M Scotchbrite it looked fine, and was still within spec. I had a new piston/rod assembly in stock for a model N, so I decided to use it on this engine. I gave the block a quick hone, and dropped it in my chem dip to soak overnight. This engine is a 48 model, and the flywheel was dated 48, but the mag plate is dated 47. I run into this all the time. Briggs just used whatever they had. I guess they had some 47 model mag plates they still needed to use. I bead blasted the head, and cleaned the id tag by hand, but most of the rest of the parts, block, shroud, mag plate, oil pan, are all soaking in chem dip, so tomorrow all the old paint, grease, and grime should just rinse off. Here are a few pics. Thanks

 

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Posted February 09, 2013 - 06:38 PM

 And here are a few more pics.

 

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Posted February 09, 2013 - 06:47 PM

Where do you find your parts?? I have a Model 8 I may rebuild.

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Posted February 09, 2013 - 07:05 PM

Where do you find your parts?? I have a Model 8 I may rebuild.

 

You can find most parts on ebay, but the parts I can't find I get from a fella by the name of Will Woodard 1-540-273-7541. He has an ebay store for vintage Briggs engines called Willswhatnots, but he only lists a very small part of his inventory on ebay, so your best off to call him. Tell him Matt sent you. I have 3 model 8's, and the only thing thats near impossible to find for them is the piston, but if its in ok shape your good. A model 8 is basically just a model N with a larger 2.25in. pison intead of the N's 2in. The intake valve is also larger 1in. as opposed to the N's .75in. The rest is the same rod, crank, gaskets, seals, etc. The head on an 8 also has a slightly different shaped combustion chamber. The rings, rod, gaskets, and seal are still available.

 

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Posted February 09, 2013 - 08:12 PM

The Briggs on my DB Saw is locked up, I'm going to pull the head and have a look.

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Posted February 10, 2013 - 01:08 AM

 This engine is a 48 model, and the flywheel was dated 48, but the mag plate is dated 47. I run into this all the time. Briggs just used whatever they had. I guess they had some 47 model mag plates they still needed to use.

So is that the reason have a '47 with a steel head and a older '47 with an aluminum head? Or was the replacement head always aluminum? I always wondered that.

 

The ID plate looks respectable for it. Looking good as always Matt :thumbs:

 

You can find most parts on ebay, but the parts I can't find I get from a fella by the name of Will Woodard 1-540-273-7541. He has an ebay store for vintage Briggs engines called Willswhatnots, but he only lists a very small part of his inventory on ebay, so your best off to call him. Tell him Matt sent you. I have 3 model 8's, and the only thing thats near impossible to find for them is the piston, but if its in ok shape your good. A model 8 is basically just a model N with a larger 2.25in. pison intead of the N's 2in. The intake valve is also larger 1in. as opposed to the N's .75in. The rest is the same rod, crank, gaskets, seals, etc. The head on an 8 also has a slightly different shaped combustion chamber. The rings, rod, gaskets, and seal are still available.

 

Matt

Isn't there a difference on some of the parts for the older style 8s vs the newer ones?  I can't remember if he has the newer one or not on his saw.






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