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#1 Moosetales OFFLINE  

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Posted January 28, 2013 - 09:41 PM

I found a PTO that reportedly came off of an older Case tractor. Reportedly it powered a 3 pt. hitch. The guys quote was, "Can't remember for sure been about 6 years I do remember it was orange, old steel plate and cast iron, I'm thinking Case but not sure." So the color fits (of course that could also be one of several orange colored tractors as well) and I'm thinking he painted it grey.

 

I'm hoping you all will be confirming that it does in fact come off of a Case tractor. Thanks for giving your feedback.

 

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If it looks right, how much do you guys see these things selling for? Thanks again.



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Posted January 28, 2013 - 09:58 PM

Is that a hydraulic pump? It's not for your tractor or newer ones thee pts are run off our hydraulic circuit of the tractor.I do not know about the colts or really older case. The cylinder looks way to long for 3 pt.  


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Posted January 28, 2013 - 10:05 PM

Not a Case GT product.


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Posted January 28, 2013 - 10:13 PM

If the tractor was orange, it was a Simplicity, likely something like a 3112H.  That is the hydraulic lift for the rear implements.  The tank takes 10w30.  I have an identical unit on the Allis HB112.  

 

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Posted January 28, 2013 - 11:39 PM

Here are the parts breakdown.  You can see there is a gear pump built into it between the tank and the mounting plate (AN & AJ).  There are two versions: a square tank and a round tank.  They are different inside as well.

 

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Posted January 29, 2013 - 05:07 AM

Not a Case GT product.

 

 

 

I would agree.


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Posted January 29, 2013 - 07:01 AM

It looks like the hydraulic lift on my Simplicity Soveriegn 3012. They seem to be going for a couple of hundred but, I wouldn't sell mine. It is too nice on the tractor. Mine is that color.


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Posted January 29, 2013 - 07:37 AM

To the guys that have that hydro lift, where is that pump and tank mounted? I don't see where it would fit between the engine and the battery/fuel tank area.


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Posted January 29, 2013 - 07:51 AM

Not from a Case I would lean towards the Simplicity.


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Posted January 29, 2013 - 09:38 AM

No Case club here too, but still a good find for something, or to resell it.


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Posted January 29, 2013 - 09:38 AM

To the guys that have that hydro lift, where is that pump and tank mounted? It is the football just below the gas tank.  I don't see where it would fit between the engine and the battery/fuel tank area.

 

Here are some photos of it as mounted on the HB112.  Hope they help.

 

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Posted January 29, 2013 - 11:09 AM

Wow, that puppy is crammed in there, all right.


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Posted January 29, 2013 - 12:37 PM

Thanks guys for all the feedback. I've decided to inquire about purchasing the unit even though it won't work with my Case. I've got a couple ideas floating through my mind that it may come in handy for; bearing press, cider press, etc. Just have to figure how I'd power it. I'll check back in and give an update if I seal the deal.


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Posted January 30, 2013 - 12:39 AM

Here are some photos of it as mounted on the HB112.  Hope they help.

 

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New.Canadian,

 

Thanks for the pic. What do you use your hydraulic lift for? Based on the photo I posted, would you say it's a complete unit....as complete as it can be when detached from the tractor? BTW is this referred to as the PTO, hydraulic pump, lift cylinder, etc.? Thanks.

 

Unless I hear otherwise I am primed to pick up the hydraulic pump and cylinder (4" travel) AND a cast iron band saw (12" diameter with a 12" throat depth). What's a good deal and what's a really good deal for the two of these ya think?

 

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BTW, what does the label say on your air cleaner? I couldn't make out the entire thing. Just curious.


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Posted January 30, 2013 - 05:30 AM

The hydraulic lift raises and lowers the implements that fit on the back (anything with a Brinley style hitch),  under the belly (mower, sickle bar, grader blade) and out front (dozer blade, blower).

 

As a unit, it is called the Power Lift Group.  It is a hydraulic pump with reservoir, control, and cylinder. 

 

I see that is missing is the float stop bracket on the control lever.  The float position allows you to use things that don't require down pressure, like a tiller or blower, without constantly adjusting the lift height.  The lever should return to neutral when released, which "locks" the implement at a given lift position.  Lifting the lever over the float stop takes the pressure out of the lines going to the lift cylinder so the implement can bounce without rupturing a hose.  

 

It is also missing the drive pulley. 

 

Open the fill port & check the oil for burnt smell, rust & water.  It should be 10w30 and will have the same warning signs as in an engine. 

 

I'm not sure what the exact text on the air filter is, but it is something like: Be sure to re-oil, do not operate without oil.  It is one of the foam ball oil soaked air filters.

 

As for price, it depends on condition & desperation.  I'd expect to pay at least $100 for the group.  Not sure about the saw.


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