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#1 mike912e OFFLINE  

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Posted January 21, 2013 - 04:15 PM

Help ! Does anyone have a 104 with the engine I.D. plate still on it ? All I need is the model number of the 10 HP engine . My Cub 72 has  K161 , my 124 has a K301A . Is the 104 engine just K241 or does it also have a letter suffix ? I've made a new I.D. plate for my 72 and will be making new ones for the 104 and 124 . I have the original plates for the 72 and 124 but not the 104 . Who ever painted it somewhere in it's past didn't put the engine or transmission plates back on . I also need to know if the 104's I.D. plate indicates 2 1/2 pints of oil for the crankcase or 3 pints as the 12 HP K301A . Any help would be appreciated . 

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Posted January 21, 2013 - 04:31 PM

Mike, My 104 has a replacement Kohler in it, but it says "K241A" on the tag. I think all the K-series engines in the Cubs were K???A engines.

 

Sorry, my tag is damaged, was that way when we got it.

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Posted January 21, 2013 - 04:37 PM

The Kohler Op. manual says that the K 241,301,321,341 all hold 4 pints.


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Posted January 21, 2013 - 04:46 PM

The Kohler Op. manual says that the K 241,301,321,341 all hold 4 pints.

Unfortunately the tag on my K301A is marked with 3 pints . Looks like there's some conflict of information . What I really need is the actual information on the metal I.D. tag for the 10 H.P. K series engine .

Thank you for the info .

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Posted January 21, 2013 - 04:49 PM

Mike, My 104 has a replacement Kohler in it, but it says "K241A" on the tag. I think all the K-series engines in the Cubs were K???A engines.

 

Sorry, my tag is damaged, was that way when we got it.

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I need to get more education on these issues . My K161 in my 72 does not have a " A " suffix . My K301A in my 124 does have the " A " suffix . I'm confused !



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Posted January 21, 2013 - 05:01 PM

Both the operators and service manual (located in our manuals section) state this is a K241AS model. They probably have the capacity as well.


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Posted January 21, 2013 - 05:12 PM

The crankcase capacity is 3 pts on the 104.


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Posted January 21, 2013 - 05:13 PM

Here is what is in my Kohler spec sheets....."A" means a special oil pan, and "S" means electric start.

 

The oil capacity is as follows:

K-91 1/2 quart

K-141, 161, 181   1 quart

K-241, 301, 321, 341  2 quarts

K-241A, 301A, 321A, 341A--1 to 1 3/4 quarts. Add 1 quart, then check the level and add to the full mark.


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Posted January 21, 2013 - 05:17 PM

Both the operators and service manual (located in our manuals section) state this is a K241AS model. They probably have the capacity as well.

Thanks KeenyP but I need the actual tag information .



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Posted January 21, 2013 - 05:20 PM

I haven't a clue what might have been on that tag.

Here's the capacities as stated in the OM:

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Posted January 21, 2013 - 05:20 PM

The crankcase capacity is 3 pts on the 104.

KennyP , is that the oil quanitity as indicated on the K241's tag ?



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Posted January 21, 2013 - 05:22 PM

I can't find a pic on Google that I can confirm is a factory one for a 104. Sorry.


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Posted January 21, 2013 - 09:20 PM

I can get a picture of the tag on my 107 for you tomorrow if you like.  The engine in it is the same and the tag should be the same.


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Posted January 21, 2013 - 10:59 PM

If no one here has it by this weekend I can get a picture of the tag on the engine of my brothers 104. I'm doubtfull but I may be able to talk him into getting a picture sooner lol.

That would be great . Thank you .



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Posted January 21, 2013 - 11:01 PM

I can get a picture of the tag on my 107 for you tomorrow if you like.  The engine in it is the same and the tag should be the same.

Who ever gets a pic first wins ....................................I guess ! Thank you .







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