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i.d.plate restoration cub 72

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#16 Titus OFFLINE  

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Posted January 17, 2013 - 06:09 PM

If you're going to do it, do it right! Great job so far.


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Posted January 17, 2013 - 06:48 PM

That came out very well. :thumbs:


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Posted January 17, 2013 - 06:52 PM

I think it is super!  And I have a buddy that's in the silk screening business!  May have to give Tim a call some day!  


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Posted January 17, 2013 - 06:55 PM

It's not ink but rather it's a type of paint . It takes three days for it to dry on the new ID plates . Since this is my first time doing this type of thing I guess time will tell . By the way, all of my cub is powdercoated except for the instument column, the engine block and the transmission case . I also have to paint the gas tank as it's sections are soldered together and would fall apart during the 400 degree baking part of powdercoating . I thought about taking the sections apart, removing all traces of solder and silversoldering the sections back together . Then it would tolerate the baking temps . Not quite there yet though . I think possibly warping the tank sections would have to be overcome first due to the silversolder requiring higher temperatures over the softer lead solder . This stuff just keeps me thinking all the time and I love it . At 67 years old I gotta keep on going and these Cubs are just the ticket ! Oh, I almost forget, the silkscreeners have a very strong cleaning solution they use just prior to printing . That should help the paint to stay inplace . My next project is a Cadet 124 and I plan to powdercoat more pieces on it . That will require more dissassembly and more work . Oh well, it never ends does it ?


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Posted January 17, 2013 - 07:39 PM

You're doing great work. Now you've got to look for more GTs.


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Posted January 17, 2013 - 08:28 PM

Hey, a second career ! What a thought . Retire after working fifty years and start another career working ??? years . I have so many honeydos on my list now that I'm going to have to live to be 150 years old just to get them all done ! I would love to do nothing but restore old Cub Cadets but I doubt that customers could afford what I would have to charge . Of course if a decent restoration costs $1500 dollars it would still be cheaper than the cost of a new tractor and would be twice the quality of a new tractor . I doubt that you will be seeing too many model year 2000 tractors in another fourty years like you do with the 1960/70 models we play with these days .


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Posted January 17, 2013 - 08:33 PM

Hey, a second career ! What a thought . Retire after working fifty years and start another career working ??? years . I have so many honeydos on my list now that I'm going to have to live to be 150 years old just to get them all done ! I would love to do nothing but restore old Cub Cadets but I doubt that customers could afford what I would have to charge . Of course if a decent restoration costs $1500 dollars it would still be cheaper than the cost of a new tractor and would be twice the quality of a new tractor . I doubt that you will be seeing too many model year 2000 tractors in another fourty years like you do with the 1960/70 models we play with these days .

 

So True.


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Posted January 17, 2013 - 09:40 PM

I have so many honeydos on my list now that I'm going to have to live to be 150 years old just to get them all done !

 

Yeh Mike, I know where you're coming from. I started writing down all the honeydo's on single pieces of toilet paper to help keep track of them all. When I last checked, I believe I was up to eight rolls.

 

Nice looking tag, and well done on the restore! Really looks good. Well, for a Cub anyway. :smilewink:


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Posted January 17, 2013 - 10:33 PM

that has turned out amazing so far i wish i had the time to restore my cub. the id tag looks perfect


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Posted January 18, 2013 - 12:46 AM

I agree, that tag looks perfect! lol I was wondering myself where you bought that. Thats def. going to stand out and get attention. That cub looks sharp! I've always wanted to powder coat mine. Hopefully I can start workin on my 100 again soon as work pics back up.
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Posted January 18, 2013 - 01:28 AM

To your original question, absolutely not. You've done such a great job on the rest

of the Cub, it deserves these kind of finishing touches. Will you be using spiral

rivets to secure it?


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Posted January 18, 2013 - 02:17 AM

To your original question, absolutely not. You've done such a great job on the rest

of the Cub, it deserves these kind of finishing touches. Will you be using spiral

rivets to secure it?

The original factory fastener is a tiny three eared rivet looking thing that probably isn't produced anymore . I would say that a good replacement would be an 1/8" diameter aluminum pop rivet . The finished exterior installation would mimic the orignal in appearance and hold quite well but still be replaceable should the need arise . One word of caution : use the shortest length rivet they make just be to sure it clears any object inside the motor shroud, especially rotating objects !


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Posted January 18, 2013 - 08:05 AM

The tag looks great.

 

Do you have a thread for the the GT restoration?


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Posted January 18, 2013 - 10:08 AM

The tag looks great.

 

Do you have a thread for the the GT restoration?

No . In fact I don't know how to start one . It might be a good thing as I can share my experiences with the rest of those interested in doing this kind of restoration . I'm going to start a restoration on my 124 next fall, as soon as I'm done with the 72 I'm doing now . It would give everyone a chance to see how I do mine ( not that it's any better than anyone elses ) . I'm currently waiting until I have the 42" mower deck sheetmetal work done and take it and some other pieces up to the powdercoaters . He was supposed to get an exact matching powder for the older Cubs, saving me the expense . I have located a supplier who will sell me one pound at a time if I need it and the color matches perfectly . I'm also looking at purchasing some real powdercoating masking tape . Regular masking tape does the job but doesn't tolerate the 400 degree over temperature very well . 



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Posted January 18, 2013 - 10:42 AM

I think the new tag looks GREAT!!!

 

I look at restorations as an expression of the artist (and the quality of some of the restorations I have seen on here DO aproach the term "art"). 95% of the time it is IMPOSSIBLE to restore an item to "as-new" condition using EOM materials - to make it JUST-LIKE it came from the factory. So how effectively you can use modern tools, supplies and reproductions defines the restorer's skill!

 

To make a true concours type resto, the better step would be to clean up the original plate as best as possible and leave it like that. And I have great respect and admiration for those types of restorations. But to do that type of job, you have to start with a very good "carcass". And spend a lot of time and money finding OEM parts in good shape... 

 

Most of the time, our "starting points" aren't good enough to do concours restoration, and repros and recreations are the much better choice for most of us to bring an old machine back to life. I think these restorations to "like new, but better using modern parts" are harder to do and make authentic looking.

 

Powdercoat is a good example. In many places, powdercoat is a MUCH better choice than paint - tougher and lasts longer. Not OEM, but a better choice. Same way some folks replace NLA engines with modern variants that are more powerful and fuel efficient.

 

Wow, didn't mean to type that much!!! Great job on the plate and the tractor!!!


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