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#1 Nascar3244888 OFFLINE  

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Posted January 16, 2013 - 05:36 PM

Well I bought this thing for $20.  I came as you see it...Engineless.....I found the manuals online here which help alot but I can only drive this like the flintstones for so long before my legs get tired.  From what I read it should have a 6hp Briggs Engine.  I was able to find an unknown horsepower engine off a massey ferguson 8 up at the junkyard but the shroud was replaced with a newer one, which is dated 1980 so I have no actual numbers for this engine, and from the research I did im not even sure the massey ever came with a briggs engine....I can tell you it was electric start, and it does have points.  It looks like there was a gas tank on the side of this thing but i bought the engine without the gas tank and the carb, because someone had already taken those pieces.  I have a period correct shroud from a Bolens 600 to put on it but I have no idea what carb it should have really I had a couple spare parts and was able to put it on the engine and it looks correct but I need an actual good carb but before I buy one I wanted to make sure this was the correct style.  Also I need to know what tank was on this as well. I included pics of the engine I got along with the carb I was able to piece together.  I also included some pics of the shroud that was put on as a replacement I believe.  Its funny the pulley that was on it for the massey looks like it will work for the moto but first I need to get this engine complete and running....

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Posted January 16, 2013 - 06:17 PM

This should be cool to follow! Nifty little tractor you have there!



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Posted January 16, 2013 - 06:39 PM

Nice find at a great price. There was a Porter Cable tractor on CL here for over a month. It looked alot like your tractor. Were they related?


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Posted January 16, 2013 - 07:15 PM

So lucky, great find, great price......congrats!!



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Posted January 16, 2013 - 08:33 PM

Nice find. I think that the Motos had a B&S, and the sister masseys had a kohler.


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Posted January 16, 2013 - 10:19 PM

Nice find at a great price. There was a Porter Cable tractor on CL here for over a month. It looked alot like your tractor. Were they related?

Yes they were.Moto Mower bought Porter Cable's lawn and garden line and continued marketing them under the "Moto Mower" name and a few others including "Lawn Master".


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Posted January 17, 2013 - 08:34 AM

looks like a 7 or 8 hp briggs.  it should have a square style tank on the motor with staps holding it on. 



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Posted January 17, 2013 - 05:16 PM

Came home today and got to working on the engine for this moto mower.  After some messing around with the points I was able to get spark!!  So I put the engine in the tractor and sprayed some starting fluid through the intake and she fired right up!!  Unfortunitly until I get a carb and fuel tank I wont actually know the running condition but The Jacktown Snow Show is saturday so im hoping to find one then or sometime soon....I want to drive this thing!!!!



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Posted January 17, 2013 - 06:02 PM

You may already be aware of this site, but if not, there's lots of useful
info there.

motomow.com/motomowerpartsbook.html
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Posted January 18, 2013 - 07:54 PM

UPDATE!!!  Went to the junkyard again today and I was able to find another part for this thing....which means im almost ready to get it going.....not to mention many other parts for other projects i have.....Got the gas tank, it had been sitting without a cap so water/ ice got in, fortunitly I found another one with an original cap so I brought them both home with me.  Both are fairly decent inside for the age, and a little crusty on the outside but not to bad.  The one that had the cap has a crack in it and I think could be fixed with a new section welded in.  If neither of them work I got a perfect gas tank, which just so happens to be off the Massey Ferguson 8 Hydro which the engine came off of.  This is one nice tank and I should be able to make it work if need be.  I also found a flywheel and an extra gas tank bracket for one of these engines. The flywheel I found actually is the one that should be on an engine like this, the one thats on there now has a starter ring on it and has magnets for the stator that was on it.  I removed the starter and the stator, but am keeping the flywheel on for now, but atleast if I want to change it over I can.

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Posted January 19, 2013 - 08:09 AM

Is that a Clinton tank in the crate of parts? If it is, treasure it. Clinton has been gone about 50 years. Good Luck with the tractor.



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Posted January 19, 2013 - 11:49 PM

That's a really nice looking find.  There's a lot of good in that one.  The long belt guard is there and complete which is often not the case.

 

I'm hoping some day to get one with a round hood.

 

 

I think the motor is from a snow blower - style of muffler and no air cleaner.

Since the original 6hp Briggs motor is gone, an 8hp Briggs should be a good fit - same size shroud.

You might want to see if the exhaust port is threaded.  On mine, there is a 90degree bend and the muffler comes out the right side.

 

Being a type 300 - it was electric start.  I can see on the left-front of the hood a cut-out for the starter/generator.  The cut-out appears to have created a weak spot.

 

Not sure the age of yours.  I believe the rounded hood from the Porter Cable Lawn Master was kept for a few years.  My guess is yours is late 1950s to early 1960s, but I thought the 6020 model started a bit later.  Not sure when they stopped using the rounded hoods.

 

The colour might be original.  Look for "lawnmaster" on the sides or the older style Moto-mower on the centre front of the hood.

 

 

Suggest changing the rear-end oil.  Water can get in around the shift lever.


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Posted January 20, 2013 - 12:45 PM

That's a really nice looking find.  There's a lot of good in that one.  The long belt guard is there and complete which is often not the case.

 

I'm hoping some day to get one with a round hood.

 

 

I think the motor is from a snow blower - style of muffler and no air cleaner.

Since the original 6hp Briggs motor is gone, an 8hp Briggs should be a good fit - same size shroud.

You might want to see if the exhaust port is threaded.  On mine, there is a 90degree bend and the muffler comes out the right side.

 

Being a type 300 - it was electric start.  I can see on the left-front of the hood a cut-out for the starter/generator.  The cut-out appears to have created a weak spot.

 

Not sure the age of yours.  I believe the rounded hood from the Porter Cable Lawn Master was kept for a few years.  My guess is yours is late 1950s to early 1960s, but I thought the 6020 model started a bit later.  Not sure when they stopped using the rounded hoods.

 

The colour might be original.  Look for "lawnmaster" on the sides or the older style Moto-mower on the centre front of the hood.

 

 

Suggest changing the rear-end oil.  Water can get in around the shift lever.

 

 

Thanks!!! That is some great info, I would be interested in trying to make as close to original as possible, I have never seen a briggs motor with a starter generator on the carb side of an engine though....I would love to see an original pic of one that had this... By the way I got this running and driving and mowing saturday after I found an complete engine up at the jacktown engine snow show that ran for $35.!!!  I took some pics and will upload them later on....THANKS AGAIN!!!


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Posted January 20, 2013 - 11:43 PM

Thanks!!! That is some great info, I would be interested in trying to make as close to original as possible, I have never seen a briggs motor with a starter generator on the carb side of an engine though....I would love to see an original pic of one that had this... By the way I got this running and driving and mowing saturday after I found an complete engine up at the jacktown engine snow show that ran for $35.!!!  I took some pics and will upload them later on....THANKS AGAIN!!!

Good question about the starter/generator - never even thought of that.

 

Took a bit of looking, but I found the following picture of a later model than yours.  The starter/generator is below the carb.

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I'm confident the colour isn't original (a bit of over-spray on the battery?).  But if you look past that, the rear tires, seat and several other details are original.


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Posted January 21, 2013 - 05:16 AM

Neat looking tractor.






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