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#1 Newpaws493 OFFLINE  

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Posted January 12, 2013 - 11:14 PM

So Guys I was watching & watching this ad and got on the road to do something about it. Crossed the border into Connecticut  and some pea soupy fog which had me thinkin that I'd probably end up waking up in a ditch rather than ever finding the prize. which was:...A

 

 

"Generac 4000 watt unit with mounting bracket set up for Bolens type tractor, could be driven by any other type also. Best offer call...."

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These pics are from the posted ad,Now that the item is home with me and as I've been reading through a few related posts, I've noticed a different model # (6197-1) vs 5344 or 5345.
Soooo the question is; 'will this actually be a compatible unit for my team...??!?' The mounting setup I got with it doesn't look quite right for me also, yet may provide some other use...?? :anyone:
 
 
 
 

 


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Posted January 12, 2013 - 11:43 PM

The first photo shows a mule drive for a Wheel Horse, so maybe yours is setup for a WH.


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Posted January 13, 2013 - 12:10 AM

The first photo shows a mule drive for a Wheel Horse, so maybe yours is setup for a WH.

 

That is what I am thinking to.


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Posted January 13, 2013 - 01:22 AM

First off congratulations, that is an excellant generator. I've got one just like it that was for an old Sears. The generator can work with any 8 hp or greater engine that has the right size pulley on it and has the governor set correctly. The differences between tractors is in the mounting brackets which are fairly simple to make. Just watch the rotation direction. I would disassemble and carefully inspect the bearings and wire insulation on it because its over 40 years old and I've seem those old bearings "dry out".

 

I'm planning on using mine with a steam engine. Good Luck


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Posted January 13, 2013 - 07:18 AM

Nice setup. You should be able to modify that to work on your tractor without too much trouble. It will sure be handy if you loose power. We have had several outages over the years that lasted 4 or 5 days. It's no fun when you don't have power to run your water pump. 


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Posted January 14, 2013 - 07:07 AM

Guys, I'm looking for some pics of  point of connection and the mounting setups for your Gts.

Thanks, I'll put up more pics later.

 

Anyone with paperwork on these or a good link?


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Posted January 14, 2013 - 08:14 AM

Check this out:

 

http://gardentractor...and-clock-pics/


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Posted January 14, 2013 - 08:38 PM

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Posted January 15, 2013 - 09:24 AM

Whilst still searching, I came across this...

 

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http://books.google....ERNATOR&f=false


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Posted January 15, 2013 - 10:00 AM

  Just watch the rotation direction.  

 

Alternators don't care which direction of rotation they are operated in, so this should be no different depending on how the brushes are mounted.  If the brushes are 90 degree from the centerline of the shaft, then either rotation would work, but if brushes are at an angle to centerline of the shaft, then it must be ran in the proper rotation or you could damage the commutator & brushes.

  Be sure to have the pulley gearing to where the engine is at or near full rpm when the generator is at operating speed if you plan to use the full 4,000 watts.  If engine isn't at or near full speed, then it won't be able to handle the full output of the generator.


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Posted January 15, 2013 - 10:18 AM

Wow, these things are pretty neat and look like they would come in handy.  How big is 4,000 Watts though?  It seems like a lot from such a small generator (with only 2 plugs on it).  How much electricity does the average sized home use? In an emergency, could this run most of your house or is it just enough to keep your refrigerator running and maybe a few lights?

 

Does anyone know about how many of these were produced?  Does Generac still make these units or parts for them?  I'm wondering if Newpaws493 could get a new mounting kit for his Bolens from Generac still?  How hard are the mounting kits and/or other generators to find?



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Posted January 15, 2013 - 11:29 AM

4000 watts is a decent amount, but you will still need to consider very carefully what you want to use it for.  40 100 watt bulbs is 4000 watts, so you could run a number of lights.  A fridge RUNNING will pull around 600 watts, but may need up to three times that to start, so that is a potential 1800 watts.  A microwave will be around 1000.  Probably the big thing you are wondering about is running your heat and your hot water.  A water heater wants 4500 watts at 240 volts, so no hot water for you :)  If your actual heat source is gas or wood and the electricity is just to control and distribute the heat, you might be able to do that as the gas furnaces I am familiar with pull around 600 watts running, but will need 2 -3 times more to start.

 

Does that help put things in perspective?


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Posted January 15, 2013 - 11:30 AM

At 110 volts you will 36.36 amps and at 220 volts you will have 18.18 amps available.

 

 

Wow, these things are pretty neat and look like they would come in handy.  How big is 4,000 Watts though?  It seems like a lot from such a small generator (with only 2 plugs on it).  How much electricity does the average sized home use? In an emergency, could this run most of your house or is it just enough to keep your refrigerator running and maybe a few lights?


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Posted January 15, 2013 - 11:31 AM

I would say that the fuses are about 15amp each.



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Posted January 15, 2013 - 11:51 AM

There is alot to look at when choosing a generator. In this case, its already chosen. A 4000 watt should be able to handle a refridge, a few lights, and a small furnace. Or you could power a microwave oven and a small airconditioner. You need to look at the the appliances and record their load(in watts). You can run a total of 4000 watts worth of appliances. I reduce that by 10% to prevent overheating. The load should be equal in the two 110w outlets. My 4 kw powers my shallow well pump or the other things.

The well pump or the electric hot water heater are usually the greatest draw in the house. Most will need a bigger generator than 5kw

I have two tractor mount generators but don't use them because the governors on my tractors don't stay as smooth and I'd rather wear out the generator engines than my tractor engines. Before using a generator, you should get an operators manual and check it out.

 

That generator has 3 plugs, 2 - 110v and 1 - 220v. You can use either.


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