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Posted January 07, 2013 - 11:00 PM

Several months ago, i decided to stop harping about Ryan's loading random this and that on his computer.  I left it with "You break it, you fix it"

 

Tonight, He asked me to look at something.  Press power, Windows starts to boot, quick & unreadable BSOD, then the process starts over.  To make matters worse, the Disks have come up missing.

 

I would care less, except there are some pics & stuff I want & some things I know he wants.

 

I found a website with free boot discs for XP, but I'm not sure that will get me where I need to be. 

 

Anyone have a good solution that doesn't include wiping the hard drive so I can save some stuff?

 

Oh, and yes, we've had the "discussion" and he has had second helping of "crow"


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Posted January 07, 2013 - 11:09 PM

I believe Hyroms is the name of the disk I have that will boot XP. Hope that will help.


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Posted January 07, 2013 - 11:16 PM

Alan just down load any Linux Distro burn it to a CD or DVD and then put it in the bad computer.  When it boots go into the BIOS (setup) and change your boot sequince so the CD / DVD loads first.  Let it reboot and it will load Linux.  Then simply connect an external HD or a large enough thumb drive,  Open the file manager and it should have already mounted your HD click on that system and you will see all your folders.  Just copy what you want to the device you attached and your good to go.  It sounds a bit complicated but once you do it you will find how simple it is.

 

This is how I get stuff off crashed Hard drives and those computers that have viruses on them.

 

Edit: Make sure the image you down load is a live image.  Most of them are but I think there is a few that aren't and I could just see you picking the one that didn't have one.  LInuxMint would probably do the job very nicely.  To bad you don't live closer I have stacks of them. 


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Posted January 07, 2013 - 11:39 PM

option 1 - buy a USB to Sata/IDE adpater - you can get them for over $10

                 then remove the hard drive with the BSOD and connect to it

                 then you can connect to a good windows pc and you should be able to copy the files you need/want

                 your should be able to burn the files to a dvd/cd

 

option 2 - down load a live Linux OS like Ubuntu or Mint Linux

                you will have to burn it to a DVD - you will not be able to burn it to a CD (sorry) to much data on it.

                then boot to the DVD on on the pc with the BSOD.  you might have to boot into the BIOS to set the

                 boot order for it to boot to the the DVD

               then boot the pc into the live Linux OS

               once the system is up and running, click the Menu and select Computer.

               in the file manager look for your hard drive,  then you can look for your file there,

               once you have found them you can copy them to a dvd/cd or a memory stick

 

good luck

 

my daughter pc would not boot into windows, I had to buy a new hard drive for her and install windows (Vista) on it.

I was able to copy her files to the new hard drive. I spend over 8 hours setup windows and setup her pc with all her programs that she had on it.  then fours days later her pc stopped working again - so had over 8 hours rebuilding her pc .

check the system and it stated I had 3 days to activate windows - had to catch Microsoft for that

had to install anti-virus, adobe reader, java, flasher player, windows cleaning tools (3 different one), all windows updates, etc.

 

oh what fun it is (MS Windows) - that why I use Mint Linux on my pc

I can rebuild or update a new version in less than 2 hours and working again and a whole lot safer on the internet

 

 

HDwildbill beat me


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Posted January 07, 2013 - 11:46 PM

I went in with an iso disc and now it says ntldr is missing. hmmm.

 

I will try the linux I guess,

 

One Q, the recovery console has an option to do a full file backup on c: then reinstall windows.  Only problem is it doesn't say if the install is from the hard drive or must have XP Disk.  Anyone know?



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Posted January 07, 2013 - 11:49 PM

Oh, and Cinnamon or MATE linux mint?



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Posted January 07, 2013 - 11:51 PM

Both - you can select one or the other 

I like Mate - that is what I am using


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Posted January 07, 2013 - 11:51 PM

Alan if you do that you will probably loose the files you are trying to save.  Can you boot into safe mode?  If so you might be able to go back to a restore point.  

 

 

 

Oh, and Cinnamon or MATE linux mint?

 

Take your choice it really doesn't matter for what you are after.



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Posted January 07, 2013 - 11:52 PM

Both - you can select one or the other 

I like Mate - that is what I am using

I'm using XFCE Mint 13



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Posted January 07, 2013 - 11:53 PM

if you do a recovery you might loose the file you want - same as re-installing Windows



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Posted January 07, 2013 - 11:57 PM

Alan if you do that you will probably loose the files you are trying to save.  Can you boot into safe mode?  If so you might be able to go back to a restore point.  

 

 

 

 

Take your choice it really doesn't matter for what you are after.

No, can't get into safe.  Gets about halfway & poops.



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Posted January 08, 2013 - 12:01 AM

No, can't get into safe.  Gets about halfway & poops.

 

Then your safest choice is to down load Mint ( I think you are doing it now) and boot off the DVD.  You can also uNetbootin to put the iso image on a thumb drive and boot off it.  But I think the DVD approach will be easier for you.


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Posted January 08, 2013 - 12:09 AM

Yep, downloading now... only 13 minutes to nirvana



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Posted January 08, 2013 - 12:12 AM

I'll stay up for a while longer so call me on the cell if you need help.



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Posted January 08, 2013 - 12:17 AM

Oh, Sorry Bill... No, go to bed.  If I have issues, I'll post and stop until tomorrow nite.  No biggie

 

Thanks, but I may not finish tonight anyways.  Looooong day at work.






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