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Posted December 31, 2012 - 01:22 PM

Does anyone know what type of bearing the 05412900 rear axle bearing is?
 
I just jacked the rear of my GT-19 up to put the tire chains on and the right rear wheel moves up and down a lot more than I think it should.
 
I had the deck unhooked but was stuck in the snow, nothing like waiting to put the sno-thro on and spending 2 days out in the cold trying to get it started with bad points
 
Then again, we haven't had any snow till this last week. I thing this was the warmest winter I've seen.
 
Now that I have it on, Let It Snow!
 
I know their 17mm ID and 47mm OD but I don't know how thick. I was looking at McMaster Dual-Load Angular-Contact Steel Ball Bearings but I'm unsure if thoes would work, I always though you had to run Angular Contact bearings in pairs. Then again maybe with the ends of the axles butting up against the cross shaft in the differential they would work just fine.
 

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Posted January 01, 2013 - 12:53 AM

I think that might be a special bearing made for Ariens only and available only through them. I had to replace one and all other searches took me in circles. Designed by New Holland, might be available through there dealers also.



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Posted January 01, 2013 - 11:52 AM

I guess I'll have to pull one out of the extra rear end I have setting in the shed and check it out. I can't see spending $100 for one from Ariens.

I see some sites list it as a Bearing and Cone Assembly which would lead me to believe its a tapered roller bearing. Which would be better than a standard ball bearing as long as there's a way to push the race into the housing after the bearing is on the axle.



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Posted April 27, 2013 - 06:15 PM

 
Wheel, all my searching came up with the wrong info. It's a Timken bearing, U199, 30mm ID and the cup that's pressed into the axle housing appears to be a 58mm OD. If I had a larger blind bearing puller I could get it out.
 
The cone is a little special because there's a stepped ring that's on the cage and seats on the cup.
 
A quick search for Timken U199 comes up with;
U199+U260L
Inside Diameter :30 mm,1.1811 in
Outside Diameter :58 mm,2.2835 in
Width :17 mm,0.6693 in
 
U199 90010
BRG WIDTH IN     0.67 
INSIDE DIAMETER IN     1.17 
OUTSIDE DIAMETER IN     2.27 
 
U199/U160L
 
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BEARING ASSY TIMKEN U199 90010 CONSISTING OF 1-CONE U199 AND 1-CUP U16090 FORMERLY U1999B010
 
With more searching is the same bearing used on other axles and I seen one price under $50


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Posted May 02, 2013 - 08:40 PM

Bill, I was wondering who else used this bearing? I have to replace the other side and I always get sticker shock at the dealer when I order parts. 



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Posted May 03, 2013 - 05:09 PM

anything that uses the Dana/Spicer GT-20 rear diff?
 
I still need bearings and I'm still searching for them.
 
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JD part # AM32765
 
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They can download the GT-20 Transaxle Service Manual [ASM-0098] 05-01

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Posted May 03, 2013 - 05:31 PM

$64.17 each

http://kscdirect.com...ing++%3C4+OD%0A

 

$48.08 each

 

http://mibearings.co...ly-4-od-p-51719

 

Just ordered 2 from the later

 

$96.16 + shipping $17.45 = Total $113.61 

 

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Posted May 04, 2013 - 08:30 AM

Thanks Bill. I didn't realize it was used in such a variety of equipment. I assumed that it was a New Holland designed special.



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Posted May 14, 2013 - 06:00 PM

I received my 2 new bearings a few days ago. After finishing the rebuild on my 60" deck and finishing mowing the lawn, I decided to take apart the right rear axle.

 

1st I noticed was the hub was loose

2nd the race is a slip fit in the axle tube

3rd the cone looks as though it has spun on the axle

4th it had 2 gaskets on it

 

When ahead and ordered 2 gaskets and 2 felt seals, if I decide the left side needs to come apart.

 

Now to decide if I should use the axle/s out of one of my other rear ends or the whole rear end. Most likely, loctite bearing retainer and use the original/s.



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Posted May 29, 2013 - 04:00 PM

after looking at the old 74-75 repair manual, the bearing, axle, housing, and brake caliper mounting plate. I see no reason why we couldn't assemble it the old way.

press the bearing on the axle with the cone taper out, put the axle in, then put the race in

that would position the axle out a little bit further, somewhere around 0.050" less than 1/16", but it would also make a little more room for the felt seal between the hub and caliper mounting plate






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