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#46 Titus ONLINE  

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Posted January 06, 2013 - 07:01 PM

So of course I couldn't just sit here and rest. I got out there and bundled up and turned the wrench.

 

I now have headlights but still not turning over. I push the button, nothing. I jumped the kill key switch, nothing, jumped the push button, nothing.

 

Going to see if I can find any wiring harness diagrams, or anything for that matter to see what else has been played with on this thing and go from there.

 

Feel free to chime in with any ideas ;)



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Posted January 06, 2013 - 07:22 PM

Pete do you have a meter? I am wondering if the starter is ok?

 

Best way to tell (if you don't have a meter) Is put your jumper cables ( only need the positive one) hook right to the + of the battery then the other to the post on the starter. if it doesn't spin then the starter is bad or it maybe stuck engaged on the flywheel? 

 

If you do this put the cable clamp on the starter 1st then tap it on the battery + terminal. just so you don't chance ruining the post on the starter when it arcs



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Posted January 06, 2013 - 07:28 PM

I do have a meter and have been using it. Not with the correct wiring though. Now that it's set up correctly, I'll meter everything.

 

I actually did that jumper cable trick and got nothing. Thank you for the tips though.

 

I'll meter it tomorrow and post the results.


Edited by Titus, January 06, 2013 - 07:29 PM.


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Posted January 06, 2013 - 07:35 PM

No problem. But if you did jump it then something must be up with the starter. like stuck engaged or just bad in general

 

Good luck! Keep us posted..



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Posted January 06, 2013 - 07:53 PM

Sounds like the brushes in the starter are not making connection, or it is burned up entirely.  Chances are the starter can be repaired.  They are only around $50 or so for a new one.



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Posted January 06, 2013 - 07:55 PM

Something I don't think is right with this. The teeth on the starter move freely by hand. 

 

I checked voltage, from the positive battery to the terminal shows 12Vs, when I press the button, it drops to 0. 

 

I found this video:

 

 

Mine looks similar, but only one cable going to it, not two.

 

I think it's something simple, I'm going to pull the starter tomorrow.



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Posted January 06, 2013 - 08:00 PM

He just added the second cable because you need a ground wire to complete the circuit. Should be the same as yours.

 

Disconnect the lead from the starter. then do the test again. The starter might be shorting out right to ground.



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Posted January 06, 2013 - 08:10 PM

Took the cable off the starter, hooked the jumper to the cable and nothing.



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Posted January 06, 2013 - 08:15 PM

Sounding like an issue with the starter then. Could be brushes like Daniel said. Or the armature or stator could be shorting out.

 

I don't think I have a spare Tec starter around here, If I did I would let you have it.

 

I would take the starter apart and check it out if it was me.



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Posted January 06, 2013 - 08:33 PM

Both of you are likely right. I'll be taking it out tomorrow and posting what I find.


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Posted January 06, 2013 - 09:19 PM

I say tomorrow, but don't want to wait. Here's what I found:

 

 

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Posted January 06, 2013 - 09:20 PM

Everything looks good and I don't see anything broken.



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Posted January 06, 2013 - 09:23 PM

It looks like 1 brush is wore out in the cap, am I seeing that right?



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Posted January 06, 2013 - 09:29 PM

Yes, it's a little worn, unlike the other one.



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Posted January 06, 2013 - 09:30 PM

It looks like 1 brush is wore out in the cap, am I seeing that right?

It looks worn to me and the commutator looks like it could use a good cleaning. It doesn't take a lot of carbon build up from arcing brushes to insulate the commutator.

 

If you are not going to replace brushes yet. I would clean them off lightly and install them in the same location and direction they are right now. Then polish the commutator up and reassemble it.

 

After that do the test like in the video






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