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#1 jd.rasentrac OFFLINE  

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Posted November 16, 2012 - 10:21 AM

The big german tractor brands as LANZ, DEUTZ, Mercedes Benz, Porsche and so on are well known. But has anyone here small tractors from Gutbrod, Hatz, Holder or other german brands.
In the last 100 years we had more than 400 tractorfactories in germany and maybe some of this tractors found their way across the pond?!

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Posted November 16, 2012 - 12:01 PM

Hmmmm....JD, I think you should check out some of these threads for a 'locally' famous Gutbrod import into Canada.
http://gardentractor...-resto-started/
and here:
http://gardentractor...-north-america/

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Posted November 16, 2012 - 12:28 PM

Many Wheel Horse fans are also familiar with Gutbrod because they produced the D250. It will be interesting to see other responses to your inquiry though.

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Posted November 16, 2012 - 01:33 PM

MF155 beat me too it but yes IamSherwood and myself both have Massey Ferguson Elfs which were made by Gutbrod and are based on the 1030 series.
Have you seen many of these in Germany?
I bought mine this summer and shipped it to the UK, it is currently disguised as a Gutbrod if you look at my profile picture.

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Posted November 16, 2012 - 04:40 PM

I have 4 of the Gutbrods disguised as Wheel Horse D 250's
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Posted November 17, 2012 - 02:57 AM

Thanks for your responses.

The search-function didn't find anything to GUTBROD or the other brands. In the 1990's GUTBROD became a part of MTD. Up to this time, it was one of the biggest german factories for small tractors.

I also didn't found a section for especial handout upload. So if you are interested, I can upload more than 300 MB catalog and information material to the GUTBROD program from the middle 1960's up to the beginning of the 1990's-
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Posted November 17, 2012 - 07:38 AM

Thanks for your responses.

The search-function didn't find anything to GUTBROD or the other brands. In the 1990's GUTBROD became a part of MTD. Up to this time, it was one of the biggest german factories for small tractors.

I also didn't found a section for especial handout upload. So if you are interested, I can upload more than 300 MB catalog and information material to the GUTBROD program from the middle 1960's up to the beginning of the 1990's-


There are a couple of manuals and a handbook for the Elfs in the Massey tractors download section, I would be interested in seeing other Gutbrod information. They are a very well built machine and very versatile with the range of implements for them.
In the UK Gutbrods were imported and sold as Allen Motostandard tractors. I do not think the Elfs were ever imported when new.
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Posted November 17, 2012 - 09:02 AM

Here some photos from the handouts, uploading the sites as a pdf need patience :firejumper: :firejumper:

2850D_hydro.jpg Gutbrod_Terra_2,5 PS_1957_1.jpg Gutbrod-GartentraktorenTyp1005+1010_1.jpg Gutbrod-GartentraktorenTyp1008+1010_1.jpg Gutbrod-GartentraktorenTyp1010_1.jpg Gutbrod-GartentraktorenTyp1050_3.jpg Gutbrod-Industrie+Kommunalprogramm_6.jpg Gutbrod-Katalog(196x)_3.jpg Gutbrod-Katalog(196x)_6.jpg Gutbrod-Katalog(196x)_13.jpg GutbrodRasenmProgramm02_1964_4.jpg Gutbrod-Kommunaltraktoren2xxx_5.jpg Gutbrod-Kommunaltraktoren2xxx_6.jpg Gutbrod-Pflegetechnik_Katalog_picobello_1.jpg Gutbrod-Pflegetechnik_Katalog_picobello_15.jpg Gutbrod-Pflegetechnik_Katalog_picobello_21.jpg Gutbrod-Pflegetechnik_Katalog_picobello_29.jpg Gutbrod-Pflegetechnik_Katalog_picobello_30.jpg GutbrodRasenmProgramm02_1964_1.jpg
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Posted November 17, 2012 - 04:19 PM

So when can you send me a sicklebar for mine ??
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Posted November 17, 2012 - 07:09 PM

Hey there. Thanks for sharing the literature.

The 9th picture had some familiar looking tractors. Then I looked at the last one and got telling detail.
I find it interesting how often moto-mower comes up.


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Posted November 18, 2012 - 02:53 AM

So when can you send me a sicklebar for mine ??
Duane

Never, sorry Duane. I'm a Deere-man :thumbs:
Gav694 asked for parts and implements, too and I sent him two URL's from german GUTBROD homepages. And this guys have plenty of handouts, OMs and other papers for download, too.


Hey there. Thanks for sharing the literature.

The 9th picture had some familiar looking tractors. Then I looked at the last one and got telling detail.
I find it interesting how often moto-mower comes up.


Dwayne.

Hi Dwayne, I'll upload the handouts and then you'll find more details. Today this mowers have the brand name Wolf
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Posted November 18, 2012 - 05:30 AM

There are a couple of manuals and a handbook for the Elfs in the Massey tractors download section, I would be interested in seeing other Gutbrod information. They are a very well built machine and very versatile with the range of implements for them.
In the UK Gutbrods were imported and sold as Allen Motostandard tractors. I do not think the Elfs were ever imported when new.


I find it interesting, that Massey didn't try to break into the UK GT market, back then, considering the history of the MF Corp.
Do you see many of the Allen tractors there Gav?

Wolf, I'm not aware of any Gutbrods up in my neck of the woods.
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Posted November 18, 2012 - 05:55 AM

Gutbrosd 1030's I think badged as Motostandards
Allen1.jpg Allen2.jpg

Not many in Scotland, I would think mainly due to Allen being in the south of England. Also the type of farming and large scale gardening in the south being more suited to the GT,s than up here.

There is a Gutbrod owners community webpage www.gutbrod.co.uk
but it seems to be visited very rarely and I believe the host is about to shut it down, there are some good photo's tho but look quick before its gone.
There is another page www.jones.co.uk that has a link to gutbrod info. the "more info" link seems to link to an archive of gutbrod info but its all in German.

I know of two people that have Allen motostandards one is a 1030 and the other a 1032, They both go to horticultural shows and plough with them. They are members of www.vhgmc.co.uk which covers all horticultural equipment.
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Posted November 18, 2012 - 06:10 AM

I've seen that Gutbrod owners site. Seems real quite there.
It'd be nice to see some pics of those Allens some time.
Did you get the Allen manual/parts book I uploaded?

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Posted November 18, 2012 - 06:52 AM

I've seen that Gutbrod owners site. Seems real quite there.
It'd be nice to see some pics of those Allens some time.
Did you get the Allen manual/parts book I uploaded?

Yes got the manual Will, Thanks

Trouble with the Allen tractors is
Allen ploughing.jpg
They look like Gutbrods, and they sometimes were not re-badged or only on one side of the bonnet as in this case, and of course I cant find any from the other side.

Theres a bit of green and yellow in the back of shot for Wolf

also see
http://www.tractorbo...6874&KW=gutbrod
For two ploughing

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