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#1 New.Canadian.DB.Owner OFFLINE  

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Posted November 12, 2012 - 06:23 PM

In August, my brother-in-law dropped off his spare welder so I could learn to weld. At least that's what he said, just before he mentioned it wasn't working & hit the road. I had never welded before so I thought, What the h..., I'll try to fix anything.

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A visual inspection revealed that the brown and white wire was not connected to anything. I put the lug on the end and connected it to the terminal it is now connected to, mostly because that seemed to be a terminal it would reach.

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My problem is that the wire feed rate seems to be to fast. It welds beautify if I turn the wire feed rate to the lowest setting. If I turn it up, it sputters & leaves big blobs with no penetration.

Anyone have a similar welder and / or know where the brown & white wire goes?

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Posted November 13, 2012 - 01:02 AM

It's a 130 low power welder, of course it's gonna spruuter at a decent rate LOL :-) Sorry, being a smarty pants here... ( hiding now lol)

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Posted November 13, 2012 - 05:17 AM

Have you tried to go "online" to find a manual for this welder or maybe a wiring diagram?
Do you have "gas", or is it flux core wire? Has the wire gotten wet? Just trying to come up with a logical answer!
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Posted November 13, 2012 - 07:41 AM

Yes, the Internet was my first stop. I can't even find a photo of the welder, let alone a manual. I'm using a new role of flux core wire (without gas).

I was hoping that someone might say "Hey, that's my welder only mine was made by ..."

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Posted November 13, 2012 - 11:37 AM

Try looking around for a Cebora manual, that welder sure looks the same, Italian, I believe.

As to the placement of that brown / white wire, I haven't a clue.

What kind of feed rate are we looking at in inches per minute when the trigger is pulled though? A general idea is that one pulls the trigger for 10 sec, measure the amount of wire laying out, and multiply by six. That's your IPM rate. Then compare that to a chart, such as this one:


http://www.millerwel..._calculator.php


The thickness of materials, gauge of the welding wire, stickout, and input voltage capacity will all affect the weld, including those infuriating blobs.

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Posted November 13, 2012 - 04:49 PM

Try here.........http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/manuals.htm
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Posted November 14, 2012 - 07:32 PM

Well, that was helpful if not sole destroying. Turns out the welder is wired correctly and I suck at welding. Guess I need more practice.

BTW the Bada Pocket Turbo 130 is wired more like picture b of the Cebora MIG 140 (Art 848) than like the Cebora Pocket Turbo 130 (Art 886).

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Posted November 14, 2012 - 11:43 PM

Naww, not soul destroying, just means ya gatta learn some.... No biggie. I am self taught, well, kinda.

Glad the Cebora link helped you out a bit. My first clue was " Imported / Fabrique " for " Bada" , they had links to to Europe...and the Telex nimeber showed zippo....

I think Snap - On sold those here a while back too, in the U. S. A. ???

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Posted November 15, 2012 - 05:00 AM

Try this:.......Anti-Spatter Spray 16 oz. by Firepower (part#FPW1440-0296) / Welding Tools & Accessories






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Posted November 17, 2012 - 07:11 PM

... What kind of feed rate are we looking at in inches per minute when the trigger is pulled though? A general idea is that one pulls the trigger for 10 sec, measure the amount of wire laying out, and multiply by six. That's your IPM rate. Then compare that to a chart, such as this one:

http://www.millerwel..._calculator.php


Well, I seem to relearn this lesson far to often: "wired correctly" does not mean the same as "functioning correctly". I went out today to compare feed rates like marlboro180 suggested. I noticed the motor speed doesn't actual change for 99% of the range. The bottom 1% drops the speed from flat out to near stopped. Guess I need to repair or replace the controller board.

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Posted November 17, 2012 - 11:55 PM

Yes, I hear that, even my multi- gizmotor Thermal- Arc machine does not always like to spit out the same IPM,,,, Though it is usually kinda close, ( usually crud in the line, or feed rollers ).... not like what you are describing.

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Posted November 20, 2012 - 06:20 PM

Found the (current) problem. Bad solder joint on the speed potentiometer. Now I just need something to weld ...

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Posted November 20, 2012 - 06:57 PM

Glad to hear you found your problem :thumbs:
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Posted November 20, 2012 - 07:03 PM

Glad you could figure it out. I would have used the mig to weld it up. :bigrofl:

To put it bluntly, my electronic skills SUCK!
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Posted November 20, 2012 - 10:57 PM

Found the (current) problem. Bad solder joint on the speed potentiometer. Now I just need something to weld ...


SO , just what scematic / manual did ya find that in?

Cool beans, and nice work. Come on over, I got plenty of stuff to weld on LOL....
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