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Posted August 14, 2010 - 09:01 PM

the newer, mid to late 90's EZ-GO golf carts have an electronic speed controller in them that might fit the bill. I don't have any info on them, but we use EZ-GO's at work and They're very smooth. I'll look around online and see what I can find.

I found them at the following link REBUILT SOLID STATE SPEED CONTROLLERS But they're not cheap! the rebuilt ones are $275.00 U.S. The new ones are $555.00 U.S. Maybe you should look at some other options.


Thanks for the info, these look good, lots of $ for the cores.

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Posted August 14, 2010 - 10:45 PM

This is the motor that I have, got this last year at the Barrie auto swap meet $40.
It turns smooth and free, I have run this motor at 6 volts and it seems OK.
The lable is not readable but by searching the web have determined what it is.
New ones sell for about $550. US

Specs ADC 140-07-4001
8.27" long 5.58" dia. weighs 29lb. has 5/8 keyed shaft

24 to 36 volts rated

2hp- 45 amps continuous
3hp- 60 amps 1hr
10hp- 275 amps peak
Going to run at 36 Volts

The one part I need is a controller for it, any body have any suggestions.

Planning on using a dead-man type foot switch with a dash mounted power control (potbox)
Any info here would be nice or if anybody has a controller that would work to sell???
Doesn't have to be to fancy or programmable, just something that will do the job.


Just a quick question.
How are you planning on changing direction (Forward-Reverse)

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Posted August 14, 2010 - 10:48 PM

Forward reverse by using the transmission that came with the tractor, this motor is not reversible.

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Posted August 14, 2010 - 10:58 PM

Forward reverse by using the transmission that came with the tractor, this motor is not reversible.


That is what I was concerned about as the motor is not reversible.
A simple SCR control system will do what you need to do.
I would look for a GE EV 100 or 200 system.
This were used in forklifts from about 1986 thur 1995. Mainly Clark, Yale and Hyster. I would stay away from other drives unless you know some one that has been trained understand them very well.
Reliable and easy to maintain and troubleshoot.

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Posted August 14, 2010 - 11:03 PM

That is what I was concerned about as the motor is not reversible.
A simple SCR control system will do what you need to do.
I would look for a GE EV 100 or 200 system.
This were used in forklifts from about 1986 thur 1995. Mainly Clark, Yale and Hyster. I would stay away from other drives unless you know some one that has been trained understand them very well.
Reliable and easy to maintain and troubleshoot.


That's what I was looking for something simple that would do the job.
Do you happen to have one for sale?

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Posted August 14, 2010 - 11:11 PM

That's what I was looking for something simple that would do the job.
Do you happen to have one for sale?

I have a GE EV 200 system in a forklift I am planning to scrap. A bit of over kill (1000+ amp) for the motor you are going to use.
An ev 100 would be more than enough and that one could be turned down to close to what that motor can handle. Will still have to use head and not stall the motor.
I have not found a good way to put all the smoke back in those things.:smile1:

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Posted August 14, 2010 - 11:16 PM

I have a GE EV 200 system in a forklift I am planning to scrap. A bit of over kill (1000+ amp) for the motor you are going to use.
An ev 100 would be more than enough and that one could be turned down to close to what that motor can handle. Will still have to use head and not stall the motor.
I have not found a good way to put all the smoke back in those things.:smile1:


Thanks for the info a GE ev 100 is what to look for, sounds like it will do the job.

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Posted August 14, 2010 - 11:28 PM

Thanks for the info a GE ev 100 is what to look for, sounds like it will do the job.

Take a look around for cheap electric forklifts and then see what they have for a drive system.
The EV 100 system can drive a 13 inch motor.
Another thought would be a controller made by Curtis Instruments.
These are found in Class III electric pallet jacks. This would be very close to your motor. Top amperage in the neighborhood of 500 Amperes. I my have one of them laying around but it will take me a little time to test and my sure it is operational.
I can supply wiring diagrams and schematics for both.
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Posted August 15, 2010 - 02:19 AM

Take a look around for cheap electric forklifts and then see what they have for a drive system.
The EV 100 system can drive a 13 inch motor.
Another thought would be a controller made by Curtis Instruments.
These are found in Class III electric pallet jacks. This would be very close to your motor. Top amperage in the neighborhood of 500 Amperes. I my have one of them laying around but it will take me a little time to test and my sure it is operational.
I can supply wiring diagrams and schematics for both.


Doug, My brother has an electric pallet jack at work that I think he said he's scrapping out. We were planning on using some of the hydraulic components for a log splitter we're working on, but I'll see if he can get the drive out of it too. I'll see him tomorrow, but not sure what time. I remember him saying that it works, but I can't remember why he said he's scrapping it. I will let you know what he says.

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Posted August 15, 2010 - 05:24 AM

Doug,
I'm sure it will be neat when you are finished with it.

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Posted August 15, 2010 - 06:55 AM

This sounds like a very cool project! Good luck with it.

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Posted August 15, 2010 - 12:57 PM

Pic of the chassis, the starting point.

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Posted August 16, 2010 - 03:54 PM

Well, I talked to my brother about the fork lift. He said that he doesn't know anything about the drive system in it, but that the battery is the problem, in that it will not hold a charge. Apparently it has a single 36V battery that costs more to replace than the unit is worth. He said that he could get it, but doesn't know when. So I guess what I'm saying is that I don't know a whole lot more than I did before I talked to him! :blush2: Sorry if I've wasted your time.

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Posted August 16, 2010 - 08:50 PM

Well, I talked to my brother about the fork lift. He said that he doesn't know anything about the drive system in it, but that the battery is the problem, in that it will not hold a charge. Apparently it has a single 36V battery that costs more to replace than the unit is worth. He said that he could get it, but doesn't know when. So I guess what I'm saying is that I don't know a whole lot more than I did before I talked to him! :blush2: Sorry if I've wasted your time.


How can you say you wasted my time you tried to help, that's better than doing nothing, besides this is a hobby not a job it's suppose to be fun and it gets done when it gets done.
Thanks for the effort.

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Posted August 16, 2010 - 09:13 PM

Well, I talked to my brother about the fork lift. He said that he doesn't know anything about the drive system in it, but that the battery is the problem, in that it will not hold a charge. Apparently it has a single 36V battery that costs more to replace than the unit is worth. He said that he could get it, but doesn't know when. So I guess what I'm saying is that I don't know a whole lot more than I did before I talked to him! :blush2: Sorry if I've wasted your time.


Hey , You are not wasting anybody's time here.
Just an FYI this may be an option for your bother. I am running a 36 Volt 4000Lbs. sit drive lift truck GE EV 1 System with six 6 Volt Deep Cycle batteries. Oviously the run time is not what you would get out of the big battery (5-6 hours) but mine only operates a couple of hours a week and it only needs to be recharged every couple of weeks. It will work for me all weekend (intermittent usage) on a full charge so it does have a bit of longevity (2-3 Hours Continuous).
Just a way to get that forklift up and running with out going to the bank for a small business loan.
Hope this helps.
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