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#61 KennyP ONLINE  

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Posted November 11, 2012 - 07:57 AM

Gav & Will, this is great. We get to see both tractors. Nice to have another owner to bounce ideas off of.
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Posted November 11, 2012 - 08:08 AM

Gav & Will, this is great. We get to see both tractors. Nice to have another owner to bounce ideas off of.




I agree ,Kenny.
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Posted November 11, 2012 - 12:33 PM

Correct, Do you still have the original Bosch ignition switch? turn the key left is lo to the right is high and push on the key cranks the dynostartor.

The Horn is also a Bosch unit i can get a close up pic and see if there are any numbers on it



Numbers are
A7108
HO/FCH
AGREE TPAR 379 380
IGM 0877 KA

After taking the photo I hooked it up to the battery to see what it sounds like - Silence it doesn't work

Gav, on the back of the horn there should be a little screw with a locknut on it. This is for adjusting the horn. These little buggers are very sensitive to adjustments, so you may be able to get it going easily. If adjusting doesn't work, this older one should come apart. There will be a set of contact points which will corrode or burn, stopping contact. A good cleaning & they will usually work fine.
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Posted November 11, 2012 - 01:01 PM

I am enjoying the back and forth exchange of ideas pictures and part numbers. Almost as much fun as waiting for the boat to arrive with the Elf.
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Posted November 11, 2012 - 01:04 PM

We could almost build one ourselves with the info going on here!

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Posted November 11, 2012 - 04:40 PM

Thanks for the pics and info Gav.
Do you have a description of sorts, of that perforated grill? What size holes, and what the pattern is called
by the manufacturer?

I don't have that original switch. I'll have to keep an eye out for one.



This is the dims in mm of the mesh
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Its called either punched hole or perferated metal sheet with a staggered pattern. Its galvanised mild steel.

I dont have details for the switch but i do for the key which should help you find one

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Posted November 11, 2012 - 04:46 PM

Gav, on the back of the horn there should be a little screw with a locknut on it. This is for adjusting the horn. These little buggers are very sensitive to adjustments, so you may be able to get it going easily. If adjusting doesn't work, this older one should come apart. There will be a set of contact points which will corrode or burn, stopping contact. A good cleaning & they will usually work fine.


Thanks for the info, i will investigate further but it does look like someone has already been inside, the paint is broken on the screws and one screw is missing

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Posted November 11, 2012 - 08:13 PM

This is the dims in mm of the mesh
Mesh.JPG
Its called either punched hole or perferated metal sheet with a staggered pattern. Its galvanised mild steel.


Thanks gav.
My BFF college drinking buddy, is in the perforated metal business. He's coming to visit in a couple weeks.
I'll be able to get that material for myself from him, and if you want to return yours, I can get a piece for you too.
Other than postage, the price will be right.
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Posted November 12, 2012 - 02:06 PM

Thanks gav.
My BFF college drinking buddy, is in the perforated metal business. He's coming to visit in a couple weeks.
I'll be able to get that material for myself from him, and if you want to return yours, I can get a piece for you too.
Other than postage, the price will be right.

Hi Will, thanks for the offer, the full sheet I bought was not very expensive but the postage was. Its already cut now anyway!
I did consider using an aluminium grill so that it could be welded in to strengthen the cut and welded areas of the surround, but after a quote of over £200 for 3mm thick mesh and me being too lazy to drill that many holes in a sheet of alu I settled for the standard galv steel.

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Posted November 13, 2012 - 09:06 PM

Update time.

Since I rebuilt the frame/engine pan, I've been doing a bit of work, and a lot of head scratching.
This Elf didn't come with original engine. I knew that, and was Ok with that. The OEM engine
manufacturer is long gone, and to get parts from Europe would have been a nightmare.
I decided to keep the B&S 11 that was in it, but as part of the resto, I had to make it fit.

As it was, when I got it, the engine/clutch assembly, was about 3 1/2" longer than
the space allowed. With help from members here, I looked for a shorter engine that I could use.
No luck.

To fix the problem, I had to do the following. (pics attached)
-cut and tap crankshaft, to get clutch closer to engine. That gained 1 1/4".
-remove original rubber flex connection of drive shaft to clutch, and replace with a more
compact solid connection. That gained the rest of what was needed.
-by shifting the engine/clutch back, I had to redesign the mounts, and make a engine mount
sub-frame.
-drill new engine pan for oil drain fittings.
-heat and bend clutch lever to fit.(still have to make new linkage)

I've gotten to the point now, where I've put the grill/hood back on, and it all fits.
Also had to make new tie-rods that connect the grill to the dash.
Started now on modifying a fuel tank bracket, and setting the fuel tank in place.

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Posted November 13, 2012 - 09:59 PM

You've been a busy busy beaver Will! That 8th pic....is that the bell housing rubber mount? And are those family pics of your sisters on the wall? :smilewink:
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Posted November 13, 2012 - 10:48 PM

And are those family pics of your sisters on the wall? :smilewink:


If they are, can I come over for Thanksgiving? I promise to stay away from the tractors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted November 14, 2012 - 01:24 AM

You've been a busy busy beaver Will! That 8th pic....is that the bell housing rubber mount? And are those family pics of your sisters on the wall? :smilewink:


That's the old rubber mount. I'm waiting for the new ones, and the new splined adaptor to fit onto the tranny input shaft. Once I get those, I can get the driveshaft/engine alignment more accurate, and finish that bell housing mount, and secure the rubber mounts
at the front of the engine. Here's a pic of the old worn out splined adaptor.
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About the family pics, yes, but those are the ugly ones. :D
:D

If they are, can I come over for Thanksgiving? I promise to stay away from the tractors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Yeah, sure, but won't you take any time to hang out with the tractors and I? :D

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Posted November 14, 2012 - 05:36 PM

After a bit of cleaning and adjustment I can now answer the question what does an Elf sound like

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Not really earth shattering but at least he has his own voice now
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Posted November 14, 2012 - 07:22 PM

LOL my dog jumped a foot in the air when that played.




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