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#31 KennyP ONLINE  

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Posted November 03, 2012 - 06:09 AM

I'm going to say about 1/8" (3.18mm). Others may have a better idea.
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Posted November 03, 2012 - 06:16 AM

Yes,1/8 inch should be somewhere near right.
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Posted November 03, 2012 - 08:43 AM

Yes, 1/8 to 3/16.....or anywhere between 3 to 5mm.

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Posted November 03, 2012 - 10:12 AM

Per,

Just wanted to say that your loader bits, and sub-frame are looking fantastic. The other fellas chimed in on the toe- in ( yes, we call it that) at just about 1/8".

On the topic of eye protection, I too have had some metal bits ground out of my cornea, on more than one occasion. Welding BB's are not a lot of fun to have ground outta the eyes.... That said, I always wear prescription polycarb glasses, and now have added a pair of glasses over the top of those that fit real nicely.

Solar Shield is the brand, they have side gauntlets, and the top part of the frame rests lightly againt my forehead. They are small enough to fit under my welding helmet, and the yellow tint turns the workpieces back to " Normal " daylight colors when viewing through the Speedglas shade.

On the last visit to the eye doc ,( I nick named her evil - eye grinder lady- she laughed! ) she suggested a pair of the above mentioned mentioned driving glasses, much like what we commonly see little old ladies wearing behind the wheel. I gladly handed over the 40 bucks for a pair, and just recently got another set for the other shop so they are always close at hand.

My wife thinks I look like a total geek wearing them, but oh well. :rolling: :D

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Posted November 03, 2012 - 12:35 PM

1/8th inch will work just fine for your application. There really isn't much sense in going more than that unless you need it to over steer.

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Posted November 03, 2012 - 12:49 PM

Can't believe that I missed this for a while. Great project and one that I'd like to watch. These guys got you set up on Toe-in. Though you can play with it to get the tractor to behave the way you want it to. If you're doing a lot of turning then more toe-in, up to a half inch or more, could give you the feel you like. Depending on your steering linkage, it may even straighten itself by just letting go of the steering while moving. However, if you're going to be on the asphalt road a lot, that much toe-in will chew the tires off (figuratively). So an 1/8th or less to even straight would work best for a lot of road time.

Looking forward to seeing this thing come together!

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Posted November 03, 2012 - 01:43 PM

I think I've had steel, etc removed from my eye at least 3 or 4 times. Last 2 times I was wearing eye protection. One really needs goggles that fit snug. But I've also gotten stuff that fell from my hair, so a baseball cap with the bill down against the glasses helps a lot. The first time I had to have something removed from my eye was a piece of hot rust that came off a tractor muffler going down the road. It was hot as heck & burned deep into my eye. That time was a longer time healing.

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Posted November 03, 2012 - 02:29 PM

Hi to you all.
Thank you for all your responce with the toe-in and the eye.
I think that all who work with welding, grinding and so on has tried to get something in their eyes. I have also tried it a couple of times, but never so bad as this time.
I have now ordered these:
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WE MUST PROTECT OUR EYES. WE ONLY HAVE TWO OF THEM AND THEY CAN NOT BE REPLACED.
(Sorry for the shouting)
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Posted November 04, 2012 - 05:31 PM

Today I have assembled the front axel with the new front spindles. As I told you earlier I used a square tube where the front axel fits inside with a small space for a washer. I wanted to use the washers I took out of the front axel before the upgrade. They were only 1,5 mm thick and they fit right in. The only problem is that the hole in the washers is only 19 mm and I needed 20 mm. I had to remove 1 mm on the diameter. Normally I would have done that my lathe, but as you know, my v-belt is broken. I have a 20 mm metal drill bit, but taken only 1 mm in a 1,5 mm thick material there is a big risk that this large drill bit will cut solid in the metal and destroy my washer.

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Here is the washer I am going to use.

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As you can see here the shaft will not get through the hole.

So what to do?
Maybe some of you already know it, but here is the trick I have learned many, many years ago as an apprentice machinist.

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You take a piece of rag.

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Fold the rag 5 – 6 times so the rag is about 3 – 5 mm thick.

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Put the folded rag over the hole and drill trough the rag and the metal. Don’t press to much down on the drill bit.

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Nice round hole is drilled.

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And the shaft fits perfect.

You can also use this method if you drill large holes in thin metal sheets. Very often the holes become triangular and not round. Drill through a folded rag and the hole is round.

Now everything is assembled and mounted on the tractor. Toe in is adjusted to 4 mm.

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Also the sub frame is mounted.

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From the rear end.

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From the front end.

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I really like the new look of my Gilson.
It almost look like a Gilson 18 HP 4WD.
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Posted November 04, 2012 - 06:41 PM

I somehow missed this thread until just now. Your work is amazing! Everything looks fantastic! This will be an invaluable reference for those of us who aspire to build an FEL one day! Thanks for sharing the process!

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Posted November 04, 2012 - 06:51 PM

Thanks for the drilling tip. You do some very nice work. The tractor looks great!

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Posted November 04, 2012 - 09:40 PM

Great rag tip, a lotta guys do not know it. I did not either 'tll a machinist frind made me a bet some years ago, and I lost handily!

Splindles look great, by the way. :thumbs: Nice work.

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Posted December 12, 2012 - 05:46 PM

Hi again to you all!
Now it is time for a little update. I have not been working on the FEL for a long time, because I have been busy with some other things and been a lot on work.

I have started to make the towers for the FEL.

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This picture shows the two towers cut to the right lenght and bottom plate welded on.

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In the top of both towers I have made holes for the oil filling pipes.

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The big hole in the left tower is for a suction filter. The filter goes into the pipe. The small hole in the other tower is for the return oil.

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In the bottom of both towers there is a hole where a cross over pipe will be connected. I have to use both towers as oil tank, becauce there will not be enough oil in one tower when all 4 cylinders are fully expanded.

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This is all the stuff which has to be welded on the towers.

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Here is the suction filter which goes inside the tower.

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This will be mounted on the nose of the tractor and will hold the diagonal braces, which goes to the upper portion of the towers.
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Posted December 12, 2012 - 06:13 PM

Looking good, Per! Thanks for the update.

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Posted December 12, 2012 - 06:28 PM

Your work is awesome! Very professional. :worship: Are you working off a set of plans for the FEL? The spindle upgrade will definitely be up to the task. I look forward to future updates on this project!



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