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#1 nycub122 OFFLINE  

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Posted October 07, 2012 - 05:27 AM

I have a 1976 Ford LGT165 (open sided, tube frame) with some steering issues that need correction.
My questions are:

1) How do you remove the excess play at the front axle pivot point? By excessive play, I'm refering to
the back and forward movement of the front axle at the pivot.
2) I have rebuilt Ross steering gear boxes for Cub Cadets before. Are parts for the Ford steering box
the same as Cubs?
If so, can the "super steer" kit advertised for use with Cubs be used for the Ford?
3) Can a roller bearing be used in place of the plastic bushing at the top of the steering column
(where the steering shaft comes through the column tube)?

Any thoughts/advice would be appreciated.
Thanks
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Posted October 07, 2012 - 06:21 AM

How much does it move? My only guess would be to make a shim washer to take up the most of that movement. Not much of any other way I know of with that cast iron mount. Some one else may have a better idea.
I haven't worked over a steering box as yet (Cub or Ford) so i can't say if they are the same or not. If you can find a bearing that fits in place of that bushing, I'd do it.

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Posted October 07, 2012 - 09:30 PM

As Kenny said, use a shim washer the remove the back and forward movement of the axle, at the pivot point.
But, that begs the question, "Why is there that kind of play there?"
The axle is cast, and the pivot lugs are cast, as part of the oil pan. Both have machined surfaces. So, unless
it was machined incorrectly when new, something caused one or both of the machined surfaces to wear down.
Is there back and forward movement at the outer ends of the axle? More than at the pivot point?
If so, and probably, you need to rebush the pivot lugs.

I just redid mine, and now, it's all nice and tight. Here is a link to some posts about rebushing it.

http://gardentractor..._45#entry214150

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Posted October 08, 2012 - 04:56 AM

Thanks, Will! Since I haven't 'seen' this set up, it's rather hard to give advice on how to fix it. I think pulling the axle would be a good idea to see if the bushings/pin have wear there also. I also think that would be a good time to add in a grease zerk to allow lubing this.

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Posted October 08, 2012 - 05:13 AM

Thanks for the comments and suggestions.
Are the bushings at the axle pivot point replaceable?
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Posted October 08, 2012 - 05:22 AM

Thanks for the comments and suggestions.
Are the bushings at the axle pivot point replaceable?
GEL

Yes, the bushings in the axle pivot are replaceable. The bushing part #'s are JAC351798, $11 each at New Holland. I was hoping Keith (skyrydr2) would jump in here. I am sure he has dealt with this. I may have to dig through the old threads and see what I find.

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Posted October 09, 2012 - 08:09 AM

Axle it self has bushings that can be replaced as Kenny has pointed out. If the actual oil pan/axle pivot points are worn ?? You may need to get pretty creative ? Later this winter I will have one of these to repair as we rebuild an LGT 125 for competition pulling in bone stock.
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