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Posted September 30, 2012 - 07:28 PM

It's just like I first thought when I saw the clutch was not right, this thing is cobbled together.
Maybe that's why the piston looks so bad.

So what your saying is that by using the 14s crank in the 16 it will be right and work.

Now I'm on the hunt for another 14 or 16 crank.

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Posted September 30, 2012 - 07:31 PM


Maybe that's why the piston looks so bad.

So what your saying is that by using the 14s crank in the 16 it will be right and work.



Could be, as the shake/vibe would translate to the piston. Yep, the 14's crank will make the 16 correct!
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Posted September 30, 2012 - 08:07 PM

Some info on Kohler Cranks

http://gardentractor...com/balance.htm

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Posted October 01, 2012 - 05:12 AM

Don't forget this manual. It could help.
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Posted October 01, 2012 - 05:42 AM

Will, are those standard sintered bronze bushings or brass. Hard to tell in the photos. Are they custom made or standard size?


I'm trying to remember now, but I'm sure I just used stock bronze bushings, and had brother part off to length in the lathe.
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Posted October 01, 2012 - 05:53 AM

If you go with having the shaft cut down for a bushing that's sort of like what I had to do with the replacement engine on my 318 , OEM crank was 1 7/16" and the replacement was only 1 1/4 or 1 1/8" can't remember lol but anyway got a stock size ID & OD bronze bushing that fit without machining other cutting to length and then cut out a spot for the key to fit through . The key was a little make shift , had to get a rectangle one and file/grind to make work , been on now for at least 5 years , Al
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Posted October 01, 2012 - 08:02 AM

DH1, I commend you for diving into this. It must be a learning experience.

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Posted October 01, 2012 - 08:45 PM

Don't forget this manual. It could help.


I never saw that manual before and it pretty much confirms that rounded counter weights are used in the 14s, 16s, not the flat ones.

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Posted October 01, 2012 - 09:21 PM

I never saw that manual before and it pretty much confirms that rounded counter weights are used in the 14s, 16s, not the flat ones.



Again Doug....don't ya trust me? :smilewink:

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Posted October 01, 2012 - 09:50 PM

Again Doug....don't ya trust me? :smilewink:


I trust ya, was just backing up what you say.

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Posted October 07, 2012 - 03:29 PM

I picked up a good used crank for Kohler 14, 16 engines today, looks and measures not to bad, now I can rebuild both the K321 and K341 that I have.
Still waiting for the rebuild kit to arrive for the 16 and I think I'll order a kit for the 14 also.

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Posted October 16, 2012 - 12:11 PM

Just for FYI, here are pics of how I bushed the 1" shaft on a K341, to take a 1 1/8" clutch.
Those holes I drilled/tapped into the block, to the same depth as the existing ones, which are about
3/4" closer to the crank.





I had to bush up the 1" shaft on a K341 from a JD to fit my Ford, with is 1 1/8" You can get bushings to go from 1" to 1 1/8" or other similar diameters at McMaster Carr. Length is typically 1", so get two or three. Cost is about $5 each.

You can also get rectangular key stock to make up for the difference in diameter. I got 1/4" x 5/16"--came in 12" length. Cut off a length as required and put it in... no problems...

The JD Block also had different holes for the electric clutch, so I carefully drilled the one from the Ford to match them... Worked great!

Steve

Edited by Utah Smitty, October 16, 2012 - 12:15 PM.


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Posted October 16, 2012 - 12:13 PM

I picked up a good used crank for Kohler 14, 16 engines today, looks and measures not to bad, now I can rebuild both the K321 and K341 that I have.
Still waiting for the rebuild kit to arrive for the 16 and I think I'll order a kit for the 14 also.


Who did you order your rebuilt kit from? I got mine from someone on eBay... it arrived with the parts rattling loose in the box with just wadded up paper on one end... Seller was pretty nasty when I talked to him about it-- said it didn't matter as all the parts are metal and they can't break...

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Posted October 16, 2012 - 06:01 PM

Who did you order your rebuilt kit from? I got mine from someone on eBay... it arrived with the parts rattling loose in the box with just wadded up paper on one end... Seller was pretty nasty when I talked to him about it-- said it didn't matter as all the parts are metal and they can't break...

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I got it from these guys, bought 1 kit before and had no trouble with it.
http://www.ebay.com/...=item20cb9293ed

These guys are even cheaper, have lots of parts, but for me they don't ship to Canada.
http://www.psep.biz/...ebuild_kits.htm
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