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#1 aariel OFFLINE  

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Posted September 17, 2012 - 02:14 PM

I've got a 1984 210 and am trying to get the front lift installed. Problem I'm having is the top pin (that connects the arm & pivot) appears to be 13/32". Or at least a 3/8" pin is way too small and there's no way a 7/16" pin will fit.

It doesn't look like a 3/8" that has worn out (it's looks perfectly round)

Plus this tractor maybe never had a front lift since it didn't have one when I got it.

I've tried cleaning up the hole on the pivot with a round metal file, but there is no way a 7/16" pin will fit.

jdparts.deere.com is no help as there are multiple pivot and arm setups.

My pivot is a single tab, welded in place. jdparts.deere.com shows a bunch of bolt on pivots, not sure what that's all about.

Anyone know what size pin is suppose to go in there? Does Deere use 13/32" pins (which are totally non-standard).


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Posted September 17, 2012 - 02:31 PM

10 millimeters is between 3/8" and 7/16". Might want to try that. I don't believe it is metric but who knows since that is about the time period when a lot of discussion about going metric was going on.

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Posted September 17, 2012 - 02:32 PM

Mine is 3/8". The pivot piece and the lift arm from the rockshaft to the pivot were new three years ago. I'm guessing yours wallowed out pretty evenly.

Edited by Cat385B, September 17, 2012 - 02:32 PM.


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Posted September 17, 2012 - 03:21 PM

Welcome to the forum! Seems these guys forgot their manners whilst helping! I do that once in a while.

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Posted September 17, 2012 - 03:31 PM

10 millimeters is between 3/8" and 7/16". Might want to try that. I don't believe it is metric but who knows since that is about the time period when a lot of discussion about going metric was going on.


Yeah it occurred to me that perhaps it was 10mm. I think I'll just drill it out to 7/16" since those pins are commonly available. Plus I've got to fabricate the arm anyway.

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Posted September 17, 2012 - 03:53 PM

Plus I've got to fabricate the arm anyway.


If you need any measurements, just yell. Mine's parked in the garage.

Edited by Cat385B, September 17, 2012 - 05:49 PM.


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Posted September 17, 2012 - 05:42 PM

I would just drill it out. Those are not usually a tight fit anyway. 10mm is closer to 3/8 then 7/16.

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Posted September 17, 2012 - 05:55 PM

Welcome to GTT!

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Posted September 17, 2012 - 09:59 PM

Welcome to GTT!

Thanks!

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Posted September 17, 2012 - 10:24 PM

aariel
if you are going to make your own pivot plate here is a drawing that should help. It is how I made mine and I used 1/4" steel.


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Posted September 18, 2012 - 12:30 PM

Tractorholic,

Thanks for the drawing. Which CAD package do you use? (I use QCAD).

Given the current prices for steel and the value of my time, I ended up ordering it from the factory parts from dealer (arm and shoulder bolt). They want $19 for the arm and a 1/4 x 1-1/2 x 36 flat piece of steel costs $14!

Thanks again to everyone for your insights and help,

Paul

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Posted September 18, 2012 - 10:13 PM

Paul

if you closer I could have make one for you for a couple bucks.

I use QCAD too. it is a great little CAD program for free. Years ago I used MicroStation both on Unix and Windows at work.
my OS in now Mint Linux and I like it a lot. easy to use and it is free. can get just about any program to use on it.

Edited by lyall, September 18, 2012 - 10:15 PM.


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Posted September 30, 2012 - 10:26 PM

So I got the arm and shoulder bolt that Deere says goes on my 210. The shoulder goes in the arm and won't go in the pivot so I know I've got the bolt in the right place. Problem is the threaded part of the bolt is way too small for the hole on the pivot. Bolt threads appear to be 3/8 and the hole appears to be 13/32.

I don't think there should be that much slop between the pivot and bolt. Suppose the hole in the pivot could be worn out. Anyone have a tech manual or some other way to finding out the factory hole size in the pivot?

Regardless, I'm trying to run down some 13/32, 1/32 wall brass tubing to make a bushing.

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Posted October 01, 2012 - 11:00 PM

Over at Weekend Freedom machines Roger Henning says everything I describe sounds normal. Sounds pretty flimsy to me. But I've got bigger fish to fry...





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