Welded Vs Non-welded Oil Pan - Pics Please?
Posted September 16, 2012 - 09:29 AM
In another thread I was trying to match another kohler that I had to my pan - but it is the wrong engine case size, so will have to wait for the original motor being rebuilt to get it going again.
Anyway, if the pan were not welded in, I would have many engine choices (including "upgrading" to a Kohler twin that I have laying around). Got me to thinking, what's the setup for the newer non-welded models? At this point, is too much trouble to cut out and fab a new setup - I have the new parts for the engine, just having to ship parts off to have the machine work done - no local shop anymore. Just have to be patient
So, just for knowledge sake, can somebody show me/tell me how the engine mounts/attaches to the frame in the later models? Is the front axle mount still cast into the oil pan, or is it a seperate item?
For reference, here are a couple pictures of how the weld-in model mounts - I took everything off so you could see it clearly
Posted September 16, 2012 - 09:55 AM
Here's a couple I found so far!
Posted September 16, 2012 - 10:54 AM
These are heavy built front axles... The angle iron looks like it is about 3x3 by1/4 thick !!
Posted September 16, 2012 - 11:35 AM
Edited by NutCASE, September 16, 2012 - 11:35 AM.
Posted September 16, 2012 - 03:49 PM
- KennyP said thank you
Posted September 16, 2012 - 04:02 PM
Posted September 16, 2012 - 04:23 PM
Great pic of both the helper and the frame!
Thanks KennyP, I looked close at your pictures, looks like the 165 uses same motor mounts, but a different enging mounting plate. Mine are full length mount to mount "V" shaped brackets.
Posted September 16, 2012 - 05:08 PM
Posted September 16, 2012 - 06:15 PM
Mine is two piece, bolts to each side of the pan from the bottom I should have taken more pics back then!
Mine are 2 piece too, I guess a different configuration. Each side bolts to the motor mounts, and then angles to bolt to the bottom of the motor.
Posted September 16, 2012 - 06:50 PM
Posted September 16, 2012 - 06:57 PM
So the engine mounts to a cradle (2 pieces) and then the cradle mounts onto the engine mounts. AND the front axle mount is a seperate piece that mounts under the frame tubes. Looks like there would be a lot of flexibility engine wise as long as you can make a cradle to match the mount points. Worst case, you could even move them if needed.
Nutcase - I didn't figure it would be to difficult to switch engines - just didn't know how the factory mounted them. Looks pretty straight forward. Actually, looks like the hardest thing is getting the old pan out without damaging it or the tubes.
But the list of waiting projects is pretty long already, so just gonna resurrect the original setup (for now...). If I really like the tractor, I may switch it out "someday"..... Most of my other gts have been Deeres, but I like the way this Ford is put together. Hopefully will have it together and running for the spring season.
Posted September 16, 2012 - 07:52 PM