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#1 MFDAC OFFLINE  

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Posted September 11, 2012 - 10:31 PM

Hello all, it's been quite a while since I have posted as not much action with my Masseys. Since it don't rain I only mowed 3 times this summer with the 12 and pulled a drag around some with the 8E. I have been stopping in and reading as time permits tho! Lost my password too so it took a while to sign on again.

A co-worker gave me this 2 cylinder Wisconsin model TF today. Antique Small Engines Collectors Club website lists it as being produced between 1946 and 1957, producing 14.6 HP. It is incredibly heavy for that little horsepower but it sure has a cool factor.

My question is did this type of engine ever get used in a garden tractor? If so I would love to see pictures, and any other info regarding it.

I have not tried to start it but it will turn over.

Thanks DAC

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Posted September 11, 2012 - 11:12 PM

There were several garden tractors that used that engine. I'll list a few:

Waterloo Bronco [tractor] from Canada
Alligator [crawler] made in St. Louis, MO
Windolph [crawler] made in Portland, OR
Garver [tractor] made in NY, NY
Tiger [tractor] made in Fort Lee, NJ
Ariens and Howard both made large rear tine tillers with the 2 cylinder Wisconsin

And I saved the best for last:
The Fabricobble [tractor] made in Chillicothe, MO :laughingteeth: see picture below.

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Posted September 12, 2012 - 07:11 AM

Yazoo mowers use that engine also.
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Posted September 12, 2012 - 07:16 AM

I think it's intertesting that that 11.8hp was made at 2600rpm. The THD that replaced it made the same hp at 2600, but was able to rev up to 3600rpm where it made 16.8hp.
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Posted September 12, 2012 - 09:11 AM

Some of the larger Heckendorn mowers used the two cylinder Wisconsin as well.
New Holland made a self propelled hay baler that used a two cylinder Wisconsin like that to propell the baler and a second Wisconsin two cylinder to power the baler.
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Posted September 12, 2012 - 09:39 AM

I think it's intertesting that that 11.8hp was made at 2600rpm. The THD that replaced it made the same hp at 2600, but was able to rev up to 3600rpm where it made 16.8hp.


That's 14.6hp. What's interesting to me is that the THD made 16.8hp with a bore of 3 1/4 with stroke of 3 1/4, while the TJD made 18.2hp with a 3 1/4 bore and a shorter 3" stroke.
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Posted September 12, 2012 - 06:30 PM

There were several garden tractors that used that engine. I'll list a few:

Waterloo Bronco [tractor] from Canada
Alligator [crawler] made in St. Louis, MO
Windolph [crawler] made in Portland, OR
Garver [tractor] made in NY, NY
Tiger [tractor] made in Fort Lee, NJ
Ariens and Howard both made large rear tine tillers with the 2 cylinder Wisconsin

And I saved the best for last:
The Fabricobble [tractor] made in Chillicothe, MO :laughingteeth: see picture below.


Thank you all for the info and replies! Now it will be time to hunt down some pics of these pieces of equipment.

Gtractor, that is an amazing "Fabricobble" you have there! Probably not many left in existance;-)
Do you have more pics on this site somewhere? Very nice work sir!

This may be the engine that I try to put on "Uncle Bill", the old MTD in my avatar. I have been thinking about doing something different to that machine. I was wanting a 2 cylinder B-S but there is potential with this!

I wish I could read that tag better. Does anyone know of a pic of the tag for a TF?

Later---DAC

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Posted September 12, 2012 - 08:45 PM

MFDAC, Thanks for the kind words! Here is a link to some more pics on this site including a couple during the build.

http://gardentractor...month-of-m-r108

P.S. Fabricobble II is already half built and I don't want to spill all the beans just yet but I will tell you it is of a half track design.
:say_what: :smilewink:
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Posted September 12, 2012 - 08:59 PM

Gibson's also used it
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Posted September 12, 2012 - 09:42 PM

MFDAC, Thanks for the kind words! Here is a link to some more pics on this site including a couple during the build.

http://gardentractor...month-of-m-r108

P.S. Fabricobble II is already half built and I don't want to spill all the beans just yet but I will tell you it is of a half track design.
:say_what: :smilewink:


Now that looks like it was a real fun project to build, and probably a blast to operate! Is that steering wheel from water/sewage valves? What is the diameter? We scrap old valves at work often. Maybe they have a use for other stuff rather than sending them to China!!!

Later---DAC

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Posted September 12, 2012 - 09:51 PM

The steering wheel is a v belt pulley from a squirrel cage fan. Not sure on the dia. but close to 7 inches.

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Posted September 15, 2012 - 08:25 PM

Older Ditch Witch I think had this motor in it roughly 1960 i'm guessing

Also I have one in a home built tractor. Really gutsy motor with no end of torque.

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Posted September 15, 2012 - 09:11 PM

Those old wisconsins were pretty big for their power, but it takes a lot to make one not run.

I found a couple of backup generators and I bought both - one for me and one for my friend. The one for my friend was a wisconsin TJD mated to a generator and it has extremely low hours. In fact, the factory paint is not even burnt off of the exhaust manifold. wish I had a better pic.

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Posted April 16, 2015 - 08:25 PM

Hello all, bringing this back up again as the other day I got this "little" engine back in the shop-almost 2-1/2 years later! My 2 wheel utility cart did it without breaking but it almost broke me, especially rolling it in the grass!

 

Does anyone know what these beasts weigh?

 

When I got it in the shop I had to come up with a way to move it around at floor level. I had an old mechanics chair I cut the upper framework off of and it set down with a couple 2x4's under it. There is no provisions for hoist lifting so I decided to risk looping a cable thru the intake manifold and hope it don't break anything. That seemed to go ok too, and now it can easily be pushed around on the concrete.

 

No huge plans yet except to have it running soon on a little more stable cart. I have an old starter/generator that I want to try to set up to make starting easier. Need to build an engine pulley.

 

DAC

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Posted April 17, 2015 - 06:48 AM

Always Great seeing these Wisconsin's brought back from the dead.

If you need any parts help or literature let me know


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