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Posted October 24, 2012 - 09:51 PM

No prob Moose, and just 'cause a diagram shows it one way, don't mean another guy got in there and did it " his " way LOL....

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Posted October 24, 2012 - 10:04 PM

No prob Moose, and just 'cause a diagram shows it one way, don't mean another guy got in there and did it " his " way LOL....


I called the bearing company you referred me to; willing to help me but they need the dimensions of the pulley to figure out if they carry something that will work. I can't find the dimensions of the pulley or shaft anywhere. Go an idea?

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Posted October 24, 2012 - 10:10 PM

Um, a tape measure might help LOL.... or a dial Vernier caliper. Even one of those cheapie plastic one's from the hardware discount bin will do. The place I referred you too talks in numbers, as in dimensions not part numbers from Case, or the like.

Not being snarky here, but get a rough measurement of the shaft O.D., and the pully OD, and the width of the pulley where the belt rides ( the widest point ya see wear ) and go from there. Sorry I do not have the dimensions on hand per say, but if you give those guys that info, they can, and will get one out to you.

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Posted October 24, 2012 - 10:21 PM

Um, a tape measure might help LOL.... or a dial Vernier caliper. Even one of those cheapie plastic one's from the hardware discount bin will do. The place I referred you too talks in numbers, as in dimensions not part numbers from Case, or the like.

Not being snarky here, but get a rough measurement of the shaft O.D., and the pully OD, and the width of the pulley where the belt rides ( the widest point ya see wear ) and go from there. Sorry I do not have the dimensions on hand per say, but if you give those guys that info, they can, and will get one out to you.


You are a funny man.....did you not see the pictures of my pulley.....or should I say my "pile of scrap metal pulley"....LOL! I'll keep digging. Thanks anyway.

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Posted October 24, 2012 - 10:48 PM

Yah, but you might be able to put pieces of Humpty Dumpty back together again sorta , to get a picture of what ya need. Shaft size, that is still there.... Belt width is still there,,,,, diameter , well, that is the tricky one... n:-)

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Posted October 25, 2012 - 06:42 AM

Here's a bit of information that I received back from Brian Hildreth of Salem Power Equipment:

"The C31953 pulley shown is actually the newer pulley design, which is 6"
instead of the 6.5" you should have. This helps with the snowcaster running
a bit faster. However, it does use the C23539 belt, which is an inch
shorter (and sounds like you already sorted out your belt ...). So the belt
could need to be replaced also. The original style C19731 pulley (6.5") is
shown for reference, but costs $23 more ... so need you to decide which
route to go.

As noted above, your present pulley is 6.5", while the recommended is 6.0".
The shaft is common 3/4" stock. Positioning of the pulley accurately is
crucial to prevent belt toss. While there are many options if you are
completely replacing the shaft, I have never found an aftermarket pulley
which fits the pin location and positions the pulley correctly."

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Posted October 26, 2012 - 06:47 AM

Okay, so money is tight here and every where and I'm trying to stay under budget for the repair on the snowcaster. As you all know, I stoved up my drive shaft a bit getting the pulley off....lesson learned. I could replace the whole darn thing for $115, I could attempt to build it back up and grind it back down to a "perfect" diameter again or I could do nothing and pop the new pulley on and hope for the best. At least those were my options until I had a brainstorm.

I'm familiar with sweating copper pipes and frequently I use in-line couplers to join two pieces of pipe. So I go to thinking, why couldn't I cut my shaft and use a coupler to join the two pieces and then have my local tool and die shop drill out the hole for the pin in the pulley. Is this crazy talk? Would it be better to thread the ends of the rod and thread the coupler on?

What I'd really like to hear is that although the shaft is stoved up a bit it won't hurt anything (but my ego and everyone's eyes) to use it :D.

Edited by Moosetales, October 26, 2012 - 05:31 PM.


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Posted October 26, 2012 - 08:57 AM

The option of building up the shaft, and turning it back true is a dicey one, unless you have a nice welder, and a lathe on hand. I doubt it would warrant the cost involved. In the " Chop and Sleeve " scenario, getting the thing to run true is once again prolly not worth the energy involved.

I would go with the last option and run with what you have there. It does not look real bad , and much worse things have been put in use.

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Posted October 26, 2012 - 01:06 PM

I just scored a win for Team Moosetales....actually it's a win for me and the High School. I spoke with the industrial arts teacher at the high school this morning about doing some welding for me. He has 5 high school guys in his welding class and is excited to have a "real" project to teach them on. I'll be having them fill some pitting, shore up a few welds and anything else we can come up with to make the blower more sound. Now this is truly a win/win and one of the first times I feel that I'm getting something for the taxes I pay to the town.

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Posted October 26, 2012 - 08:20 PM

Nice, that sounds like a win- win.

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Posted October 26, 2012 - 10:37 PM

Well today found me placing an order for parts through Brian and priming the remaining parts that I've stripped and cleaned. A set of 777s are on their way and the welding needs I had will be addressed come Monday. I'm still contemplating the fate of my drive shaft....still not sure what I will do. I've got a color scheme picked out....but more on that later.

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Posted October 27, 2012 - 09:53 AM

It just dawned on me that I have not shared with you guys the name of the road I live on........anyone want to guess?

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Hope everyone is having a great weekend.

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Posted October 27, 2012 - 09:57 AM

Lemme guess the other road, "Ingersoll Ave"? Isn't that right down past "Colt Street" , kitty corner from "Old Abe" station?

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Posted October 27, 2012 - 11:01 AM

Wouldn't that be cool! It's actually a dirt farm road that sits just off Case Road and it's Wyman Farm Lane. Still farmerish :D.

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Posted October 28, 2012 - 06:34 AM

Call me crazy but yesterday was a good day for a bargain. Now, before I get ahead of myself, the bargain I found may turn out to be a bust and may only yield what I originally bought it for......that is a switch. Yes, I bought an item from a yard sale for the SWITCH. It wasn't until I got it home that I realized what it was and how it might be useful to my CASE project.

Here are some pics of the bargain ($2) that I bought simply for the switch on the front....I had planned to use it to turn on/off the reversing light I am installing on the 444.

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With the advent of the internet it's a little silly to ask people to guess what featured in my pics, but I'm going to do just that....honor system you know. Does anyone know, off the top of their heads, what this is and have you ever used one? Once it's clear, you'll understand how this might be a game changer for me in regards to the direction I head with my snowcaster.

Here's to hoping it's got a blown fuse and/or my buddy can help me diagnose the problem and get this machine purrring once again.




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