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#91 John@Reliable OFFLINE  

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Posted October 20, 2012 - 03:00 PM

:good_job: on the switch, now while it's still fresh in your mind add a new one on your list of things to get from Brian. While they all look the same, it's a lot easier and cheaper in the long run to just order from him, 3 days later you will have the right one, I would replace it and use the old one as a back up.
Now as far as the throttle check and see if the lever has a bolt and nut vs: a rivet holding it together, pain to get to behind
the battery. If it has a bolt & nut just tighten it a little. :thumbs:
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Posted October 20, 2012 - 09:45 PM

:good_job: on the switch, now while it's still fresh in your mind add a new one on your list of things to get from Brian. While they all look the same, it's a lot easier and cheaper in the long run to just order from him, 3 days later you will have the right one, I would replace it and use the old one as a back up.
Now as far as the throttle check and see if the lever has a bolt and nut vs: a rivet holding it together, pain to get to behind
the battery. If it has a bolt & nut just tighten it a little. :thumbs:


Here are a few shots of the throttle assembly....and you guessed it....it's held together with a rivet.

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So I'm going to attempt to modify the throttle cable assembly from rivet to bolt & nut. Wish me luck....any ideas are always welcome.

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Posted October 20, 2012 - 10:02 PM

Yepper. That's the rivot. Usually smacking that rivot with a hammer tightens it up.
If your using a bolt be sure to use a lock nut or even two as a jam nut.
Finding that happy medium will be interesting so it's not to hard but still holds it in place.
It's comeing together nicely. It's nice to see you tackling these smaller issues. It makes it much more enjoyable to drive when complete.
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Posted October 20, 2012 - 10:53 PM

I couldn't wait till the morning to dig into this project so I dug.....here's what I found:

I drilled out the rivet and took the assembly apart.

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I found my problem, the "once white" now yellowed ribbed washer is shot; cracked and pretty well deteriorated. I tired using two heavy duty teflon washers (held together with a bolt and lock washer as well as trying a double nut....thanks Mjoe7) and it worked pretty well but won't stand up to the shake, rattle and roll of my tractor. So, unless one of you has an extra set of the washers pictured above that you'd be will to part with I will need to send off for a new assembly from Brian. At least I now know what the inside of the assembly looks like.

I'd really like to repair this both for the cost factor but also because the rest of the cable looks to be in great shape and I'd like to keep the original thumb push/pull that slides onto the assembly arm.

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Posted October 21, 2012 - 10:37 AM

Teflon is not a good choice, its too slippery. Fiber washers or something with a little grip would work better.
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Posted October 21, 2012 - 01:10 PM

Teflon is not a good choice, its too slippery. Fiber washers or something with a little grip would work better.


coldone,

One would think I'd pick up on that since I use teflon spray to give me that "no stick" effect when needed. Good call. Will look for a fiber washer instead.

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Posted October 21, 2012 - 06:09 PM

Today was a productive day.........

1) finished paint removal on the inside of the blower and the blower shoot
2) primed the inside of the blower and the blower shoot

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Hey John, notice that red colored primer. :D

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Posted October 21, 2012 - 10:15 PM

SNOWCASTER TURN ROD BRACKET..........yes you guessed it, it would appear I am missing the bracket that holds the turn rod in place. Best I can tell from the manual I have it bolts to the right side of the tractor just under the bolts that hold the battery pan in place. Am I showing my ignorance here or am I correct? The lift arm is attached but nothing else.

Would any one have dimensions for the bracket?...as it seems I will either be scouring ebay or fashioning one of my own.

I'm still smiling, really I am. Thanks for any help you can offer.

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Posted October 21, 2012 - 10:44 PM

After taking another look, there is a bracket coming off of the lift arm, and I have that on my snowcaster, there just seems to be another bracket up closer to the end of the turn rod that is intended to stabilize the rod as you crank it.

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I'll try to post a couple pics from my machine in a few minutes.

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Posted October 21, 2012 - 11:02 PM

Here's a pic of the lift arm (I believe I am calling it the correct term?):

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And here is a pic of the bolt holes I referenced above that I thought might be where one would bolt a bracket to stabilize the turn rod.

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Here are a couple pics that show the bracket on my '74 JD 110 that holds the turn rod:

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Am I going crazy or just a little nuts?

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Posted October 21, 2012 - 11:43 PM

Yours shoud have that bracket welded to the lift arm for the turn rod to go through. The old snow blowers like on the 155 it bolted to the side of the tractor like your JD.
On my cousins blower the bracket was cut off. So I made him this to hold his rod.
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Posted October 21, 2012 - 11:51 PM

It looks like your bracket is there. It also looks like yours has an extension or it looks way to long.

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Posted October 22, 2012 - 08:42 AM

Here are a few pics that show the set up of the turn arm as well as the lengths of each section:

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Overall length of the turn arm is approximately 54". Based on the diagram in the parts manual everything on my turn arm looks exactly as it should be; two parts with a knuckle in the middle (not sure it's called a knuckle).

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Posted October 22, 2012 - 08:44 AM

Yours shoud have that bracket welded to the lift arm for the turn rod to go through. The old snow blowers like on the 155 it bolted to the side of the tractor like your JD.
On my cousins blower the bracket was cut off. So I made him this to hold his rod.
josh224-3.jpg


Mjoe7,

Thanks for the pic. I was thinking of fabricating something very similar to this. Looks like your cousin's machine has bolt holes exactly where my bracket would fasten to my machine. Did you weld the T at the lower end of the bracket or what?

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Posted October 22, 2012 - 12:56 PM

Mjoe7,

Thanks for the pic. I was thinking of fabricating something very similar to this. Looks like your cousin's machine has bolt holes exactly where my bracket would fasten to my machine. Did you weld the T at the lower end of the bracket or what?


Yes I used existing holes and welded a T on the lower end.
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