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#316 Moosetales OFFLINE  

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Posted December 20, 2012 - 10:21 PM

Well, the wheel weight is up and running.

This adds 64 lbs. to each rear wheel. I am super pleased with the outcome. Now for the other side.

Base plate (rotor) attached to the rim (before painting)

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Base plate (rotor) painted

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This is the first 1" drill bit I've ever owned.........oh and did I mention that my dad gifted me his floor mounted drill press? I'm a blessed son for sure.

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Base plate (edge view); notice the 1" holes through the top layer of the rotor? This allows the bolt to set below the surface of the rotor and then allows a socket to fit over the head of the bolt.

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Wheel weight (torque converter) painted and ready to install

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Base plate and wheel weight dry fitted together

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Wheel weight attached and ready to go

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Wheel weight in motion....


Edited by Cat385B, December 20, 2012 - 11:22 PM.

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Posted December 20, 2012 - 11:24 PM

I don't care how many pics you post sideways. Keep 'em coming, I can fix them. 25% of pictures tipped over is better than no pics at all.

BTW, I'm going to steal your idea. And make a fortune. (insert evil laugh here)
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Posted December 21, 2012 - 06:13 AM

That looks good! Wouldn't work on 12" wheels, but looks good on those! Great idea!
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Posted December 21, 2012 - 06:36 AM

Nice weights you made :thumbs: Was that hard to drill a hole that was only 3/4 that way around ? Al
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Posted December 21, 2012 - 06:43 AM

Nice weights you made :thumbs: Was that hard to drill a hole that was only 3/4 that way around ? Al


Are you talking about the 1" hole that I drilled for the socket to be able to fit around the bolt head?

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Posted December 21, 2012 - 06:56 AM

Yep looks like that would be a tuff job as the drill broke into the edge

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Posted December 21, 2012 - 09:17 AM

Yep looks like that would be a tuff job as the drill broke into the edge


I drilled a 3/8" pilot hole first through both layers of the rotor and then drilled the 1" hole through the top layer of the rotor. This allowed the 1" drill bit to have a guide which kept it in place and prevented it from lurching or jumping as it exited and re-entered the edge of the rotor. The combination of the black oxide bit and the fact that the rotors are fairly soft metal helped as well. As with every fabrication from scratch you learn a lot on the way to solving the problems. I could have gotten away with a 3/4" hole instead of an 1" but the 1" gave me a little wiggle room for the socket.

It's not imperative to counter sink the bolts that attach the torque converter to the rotor but if you don't, just note that the rotor will stand off the rim about 1/8"-1/4" due to the bolt heads.

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Posted December 24, 2012 - 07:34 AM

Hey, Merry Christmas to one and all. I hope you're able to pull yourself away from the garage long enough to help get things ready for Christmas Eve or you'll be getting COAL for Christmas.....at least that's what my wife has convinced me I'll get if she finds me in the garage working on my front tire chains this afternoon/evening.

So, my question to you all is........how many times does your engine turn over before she comes to life? Cold weather? Warm weather? I'm suspecting that something needs a little tuning on my rig. She starts and runs but only after cranking over a bit. If I had to guess, I'd say she's starved for gas at the start but I may be way off; worse yet, if that's true then I'll need some guidance as to the fix. Would it help if I posted a video of what I'm talking about?

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Posted December 24, 2012 - 07:48 AM

Both of my workers had sat for a while before the snow hit, the both needed a little coaxing to get to fire up.

If there is a pump involved, it would lengthen the process if it had lost prime.
Is it more temp dependent or it more number of days since she last ran?

A video might help someone pinpoint the problem.
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Posted December 24, 2012 - 08:34 AM

Here's a quick video.


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Posted December 24, 2012 - 08:34 AM

Well, it looks as though the video post above is working after all.


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Posted December 24, 2012 - 11:54 AM

Both of my workers had sat for a while before the snow hit, the both needed a little coaxing to get to fire up.

If there is a pump involved, it would lengthen the process if it had lost prime.
Is it more temp dependent or it more number of days since she last ran?

A video might help someone pinpoint the problem.

Temp does make the start a bit slower but whether it's warm or cold she doesn't fire right up. If she sits for a few days there might be a bit of a lag but there still seems to be a lag upon start that sounds to me like there's not enough fuel getting to the carb.

 

Heck, maybe I'm choking too much or not enough or something silly like that. Thanks for your response.



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Posted December 24, 2012 - 01:44 PM

I had an issue with the Onan in Big Bertha. The needle seat stuck closed, so it wasn't getting fuel. Took a bit to figure that out.


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Posted December 24, 2012 - 05:53 PM

I don't think I have any video's of my 444 starting up. But here is a video of starting my old 220 @ 0° C which is 32° F. It has a K241 Kohler engine very similar to the 444's K321.

 


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Posted December 26, 2012 - 09:19 AM

I had an issue with the Onan in Big Bertha. The needle seat stuck closed, so it wasn't getting fuel. Took a bit to figure that out.

Did this hiccup cause your Onan to have slow starts or not run at all?






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