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#1 superaben OFFLINE  

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Posted August 28, 2012 - 08:02 PM

Hello folks,

My name is Ben and I live in the Shenandoah Valley of VA. I am an antique equipment enthusiast. I have completed two Farmall restorations: a 1948 Super A and a 1945 A with the pneumatic Lift-All. I also own a Gravely 5260 walkbehind. I have a few other projects, including a Gravely L which I am restoring for the owner, currently out for boring.

My current project is a walk behind tractor. It is hooked to a Bolens middle buster/plow, and according to the owner is about 40+ years old. However, the engine has probably been replaced since it is a newer B&S Magnetron 8hp.

I am trying to identify this machine. It has no castings or serial numbers to help me out.

Any clues?

Ben

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Posted August 28, 2012 - 08:15 PM

Welcome to the forum Ben. Can't help on the tractor ID but there are lots of folks here who have deep experience with 2 wheelers.

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Posted August 28, 2012 - 08:17 PM

My wild guess is simplicity. It seems to me around 1959 they made a model with a gearbos and a briggs engine.
the best site for info on simpllicity built tractors is a site caled Simple tractors you can find by doiing a google search.
They have a lot of specs and sales sheets on products built by simplicity.

Edited by JD DANNELS, August 28, 2012 - 08:18 PM.


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Posted August 28, 2012 - 08:33 PM

Looks like a Simplicity V or H-Series tractor with a Midland tractor handle bar assembly. Look at the left frame behind the left tire for a data plate. If it is there be very careful with the printing on it as it will vanish. The model was printed on them and the serial number was stamped. There is no record of the serial numbers. Some had the model and serial on the shift plate.

Both makes were also sold by Montgomery Ward so they may have done the plating.

Garry
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Posted August 28, 2012 - 08:49 PM

I agree with GWest,
It was made by Midland and sold by Montgomery Wards

Edited by Gtractor, August 28, 2012 - 08:51 PM.


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Posted August 28, 2012 - 09:23 PM

Welcome Ben looks like your just over the big hill from me.Sorry I'm not much help this time maybe I will be helpful later

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Posted August 28, 2012 - 09:35 PM

Simplicity walk behind made for Montgomery Wards (Power Trac)

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Posted August 29, 2012 - 04:30 AM

Ben,welcome to the forum.Glad to have you with us.

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Posted August 29, 2012 - 05:09 AM

Welcome to the forum! Sounds like folks are getting in agreement on what it is.

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Posted August 29, 2012 - 08:12 AM

Thanks to everyone for the warm welcome and the guesses as to what type of project I have.

Is this what we are referring to as the MW Midland? http://www.tractorsh...otos/a22646.jpg

I personally believe from what you have said that I have a Simplicity V related machine. This link is almost identical with the tractor: http://simpletractor...ers/model_v.htm

The only difference is the handle. Someone mentioned that the handle is a Midland deal. Did MW have a combination Simplicity V and the Midland that would resemble my tractor?

What's still throwing me off is the engine. From the picture at the link above, my engine is the same all excepting that it has a recoil starter, not the rope start. The date on the shroud (part of the recoil starter) says it is a Magnetron 8hp B&S engine. Looking up the number, 190401 2695 01, on B&S, it gives a more modern parts book for a Magnetron. From looks, the Magnetron is the same as the 5 hp engine #14 on the V. Could I have the old 5 hp engine with a Magnetron shroud and recoil start?

Ben

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Posted August 29, 2012 - 09:29 AM

Ben, the earlier engines had the points outside the block. They were under a small rectangular cover under the carb. With the later engines the points were under the flywheel. In the early 80s they came out with the Magnetron and eliminated the points. The first 2 digits of the code number on your shroud should be the production date. I bet the engine has been changed.
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Posted August 29, 2012 - 07:29 PM

Thanks Doug. I actually think that there is an adapter type plate under the engine, so I agree that the engine was replaced.

They should have left the old engine on the tractor. I'm sure it would still run (or at least be repairable) versus the current engine. Once these newer small engines go down, they don't come up again without a lot of money and work!

Ben

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Posted August 29, 2012 - 08:08 PM

Welcome to the site Ben! I see you are already getting good help!

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Posted August 31, 2012 - 08:51 PM

Hmmm just brought one of these home but this one has a Wisconsin

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Posted September 01, 2012 - 10:34 PM

Nice tractor Welcome to GTT




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