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Posted August 24, 2012 - 06:33 PM

Does a hydrostatic trans-axle from a 16 fit a 1650?
Does everything work the same?

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Posted August 24, 2012 - 07:04 PM

The transaxles are basically the same, but there are major differences in the hydro controls between the 2 models. I'm not sure if the axles are the same, but the hubs will fit the rims, as both 5 lug. The 14/16 axles are straight keyed, while the 1650 "may" be tapered & keyed. I'm thinking the 50 is tapered.

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Posted August 24, 2012 - 08:11 PM

The transaxles are basically the same, but there are major differences in the hydro controls between the 2 models. I'm not sure if the axles are the same, but the hubs will fit the rims, as both 5 lug. The 14/16 axles are straight keyed, while the 1650 "may" be tapered & keyed. I'm thinking the 50 is tapered.


so there both 2 speeds?

I found a 1650 with bad Hydro and I have a spare good working MF14 Hydro assembly.
Wanted to know if 1 could be used to fix or replace the other.

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Posted August 24, 2012 - 08:25 PM

Yes, both 2 speed Peerless. The problem is the swash plate control shafts. The 1650's control shaft comes out the left side of the hydro unit, whereas the 14/16 control shaft comes out the right side. You will have to take the hydro apart & swap out the control shaft from the bad 1650 unit, and install in the left side of the 14's unit. The stock 14's shaft sticking out the right side could just be left as-is, so you only have to mess with the one side. Plus, if you ever wanted/needed to put the hydro back into a 14/16, the original control shaft would still be there.
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Posted August 24, 2012 - 08:30 PM

Doug, I'm pretty sure they are the same, but never really paid too much attention to that, as
mine have always been working good, and the most I've done to them, is change the Type "A"
fluid.

Have you checked Agco, to compare part #'s ?

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Posted August 24, 2012 - 08:38 PM

Different #s

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Posted August 25, 2012 - 05:39 AM

Doug, it could be that the hydro in the 1650 is repairable. It may not be a write off. If it's less work to repair it then to swap rear ends then it may make sense to do so.

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Posted August 26, 2012 - 05:08 AM

Sundstrand or Eaton hydros? I think the early 1650s had Sundstrands and the later models used Eatons. The housings are different for each hydro, but the contents of the housings are pretty much interchangeable. That would apply to the 14/16 as well.

Axle length may be different between the 2 series of tractors.

The green guys use the same combinations in some of their tractors.




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