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#31 Bmerf OFFLINE  

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Posted August 25, 2012 - 01:41 PM

Now you guys have me thinking. I put Chevron Universal Tractor Hydraulic Oil in the 195. The can said it was good for Ford and other tractors, it was red like ATF, old stuff that came out was red like ATF. Should I be running regular engine oil? My old Bobcat 632 skid steer takes 10W40 in the motor and the hydraulics. I can’t see a problem if ATF is OK. But do not want to hurt my transmission.

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Posted August 25, 2012 - 07:49 PM

Guys don't go by the manual for the ford go by what Eaton has to say as they built it, I think that other stuff is for the standard shift trans. Don't use 15/40 motor oil it is too thick and will cavitate at cold temps.
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Posted August 25, 2012 - 08:27 PM

Ok. So what does Eaton recommend? ATF or tractor hydraulic fluid? or something else?

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Posted August 26, 2012 - 06:04 AM

http://www.eaton.com.../dev_216990.pdf

http://www.eaton.com.../dev_216991.pdf

Read these and become one with your Eaton 11 and all it 's capabilities ;) :)

Edited by skyrydr2, August 26, 2012 - 06:52 AM.

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Posted August 27, 2012 - 10:57 AM

Ok. So what does Eaton recommend? ATF or tractor hydraulic fluid? or something else?


From the Eaton PDF
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Showing the Eaton 11 specs...
Showing Peak Pressure gets to 2250PSI
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OK...so this says to reference Bulletin 3-401 which specifically states Against using ATF or Automotive grade lubricants...
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And before seeing this I was going to use the Rotella, now ? .Flow and viscosity seem to be the ticket for this transmission but as to which lubricant to use for optimum performance.... Still studying the Sauer-Danfoss manual...

Edited by NutCASE, August 27, 2012 - 02:15 PM.

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Posted August 27, 2012 - 11:34 AM

In one of those pdfs it says 20w-20 so atf will work just fine but I prefer hy- trans transmission oil for tractors it is basically hydraulic oil with better anti foaming capabilities . On the older generation eatons you may find they will howl a bit more on atf as mine did I changed the fluid and filter to hy-trans and it got quieter but not as quietas my 165 is. And I have 2 other older Gen. 125s and they are the same . So the newer ones seem to be quieter .

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Posted August 27, 2012 - 11:51 AM

A lot of excellent information there. Thanks keith :thumbs:

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Posted August 27, 2012 - 12:52 PM

I guess my concern at this point is although the 'pump' is ok with these oils, what about the gearbox(since they don't have separate resivoirs)? I still have some diggin to do...Which this consideration could be SKYRYDR2's experience with noise...Several places in the manual they say do not mix...so that is out of the q...

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Posted August 27, 2012 - 03:15 PM

Russ, after we saw your oil bottle pump, I bought one & made a post about it. Many people gave me a "thanks" for the post, but YOU should have gotten the thanks, so I "thanked" every one of your posts in this thread! :thumbs:
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Posted August 27, 2012 - 03:17 PM

Daniel, I thanked you cause you told where to get it!
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Posted August 27, 2012 - 03:24 PM

Daniel, I thanked you cause you told where to get it!


Russ said Wally World as well. I'm just so glad the bottle pump was spotted. It's gonna be so easy to top these hydro's off with oil now!
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Posted August 27, 2012 - 03:52 PM

Sure sorry I didn't say anything sooner about the pumps,, I have had em for a few years,,, I just glad to be able to help out some,, An yea the pumps works great,,,,,
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Posted August 27, 2012 - 08:58 PM

I don't see any post about the pump olcowhand,,,, This site is the only one I really know about,,,lol

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Posted August 28, 2012 - 03:35 AM

Hy- Trans is availible at tractor supply and even Wally world has it . The gearbox will just love that new oil too Also just cuz its red doesn't mean its atf! A lot of this oil is dyed red! For leak detection. Deere john uses red oil, Setra/Piston Bully uses it too and their version is made of veggy oil for environmental protection.
Just be sure it is a 20 w hydraulic/Transmission oil and it will work wonderful .
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