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Posted August 22, 2012 - 08:10 PM

When you are taking apart an old tractor to restore and put all the fasteners in a small container what do you do when you are waiting on reassembly? If you let them sit they will gather more corrosion...Yet if you mix a quart of 1/2 Acetone and 1/2 Transmission fluid and mix it up (this is also a very good homemade penetrating oil)...if you soak the fasteners the rust, dirt, crud and old paint will just fall off. So when you go to reassemble the fasteners will go on (and in most cases look) like new. Sometimes you may have to wire brush some of the crud off but for the most part the hard stuff is done for you.

Stumbled on this 'tip' when I was restoring the LGT145 and wanted to share it with everyone, yep it makes a big difference.

You may want to 'shake' or stir em from time to time...just to loosen and drop deposits in the bottom...

Good Luck and if anyone else trys this post up...

Edited by NutCASE, August 23, 2012 - 12:39 AM.

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Posted August 22, 2012 - 08:15 PM

I have done that with kerosene, but the acetone & ATF would have lots more detergents & solvent power.
I'll have to try that if I ever get the time to take a tractor apart...
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Posted August 22, 2012 - 08:17 PM

Any issues if they stay soaking., lets say weeks?

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Posted August 22, 2012 - 09:19 PM

Thanks for the tip! :thumbs:

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Posted August 22, 2012 - 09:24 PM

I use equal parts transmission fluid, Brake fluid and Marvel Mystery oil
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Posted August 22, 2012 - 10:16 PM

I have little 8 ounce containers I keep my bolts in. First i put them in the walnut tumbler, then give them a kroil bath. After that I I put a paper towel on the bottom of the container, drop the bolts in, and put another paper towel on top. The paper towels hold the excess kroil, and keep the bolts from rusting, That's just what I do though. Thanks for the tip, that would probably be cheaper than Kroil!!! :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:
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Posted August 22, 2012 - 10:58 PM

I have used the 50/50 ATF and acetone for a penetrating oil before and i think it really is better than anything off the store shelf! I will have to try the bolt bath, thanks for the tip!
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Posted August 23, 2012 - 12:35 AM

Any issues if they stay soaking., lets say weeks?


No, but make sure there are no composite nor rubber parts, just springs, steel, metal etc...when you put them back together ...well you will see it when you take the parts out...

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Posted August 23, 2012 - 05:07 AM

Thanks for the tip. If the container is open does the acetone evaporate from the solution pretty quickly? I'm wondering if it would soften plascic containers as well.

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Posted August 23, 2012 - 09:14 AM

Thanks for the tip. If the container is open does the acetone evaporate from the solution pretty quickly? I'm wondering if it would soften plascic containers as well.


Didn't seem to harm mine, I used an old plastic mcdonalds salad tray...
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Posted August 23, 2012 - 09:35 AM

Good tip there! Thanks for sharing with us!

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Posted August 23, 2012 - 10:16 AM

Didn't seem to harm mine, I used an old plastic mcdonalds salad tray...

Thanks for the tip. Anything to save work in a restoration is worth trying IMO especially in a saved tractor where wevery bolt pretty much needs attention.

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Posted August 23, 2012 - 11:33 AM

Here is some info I read a few years ago. Been using the home brew ever since.


Penetrating oil comparison


Interesting stuff to my friends that turn a wrench!

Machinist's Workshop magazine actually tested penetrants for break out torque on rusted nuts. Significant results! They are below, as forwarded by an ex-student and professional machinist, Bud Baker.
*Don't forget the April 2007 "Machinist's Workshop" magazine comparison test.*

*They arranged a subjective test of all the popular penetrants with the control being the torque required to remove the nut from a "scientifically rusted" environment. *

Penetrating oil ..... Average load*

None ............ ......... 516 pounds
WD-40 ............ ...... 238 pounds
PB Blaster ............ . 214 pounds
Liquid Wrench ..... 127 pounds
Kano Kroil ............ 106 pounds
ATF-Acetone mix....53 pounds

*The ATF-Acetone mix was a "home brew" mix of 50 - 50 automatic
transmission fluid and acetone.*
*Note the "home brew" was better than any commercial product in this one
particular test. Our local machinist group mixed up a batch and we all
now use it with equally good results. Note also that "Liquid Wrench" is
about as good as "Kroil" for about 20% of the price. *
*Your experience may vary, etc., etc.


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Posted August 23, 2012 - 11:33 AM

That is a great tip! Thanks Jim! I will be sure to try this one!

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Posted August 23, 2012 - 12:44 PM

Here is some info I read a few years ago. Been using the home brew ever since.


Penetrating oil comparison


Interesting stuff to my friends that turn a wrench!

Machinist's Workshop magazine actually tested penetrants for break out torque on rusted nuts. Significant results! They are below, as forwarded by an ex-student and professional machinist, Bud Baker.
*Don't forget the April 2007 "Machinist's Workshop" magazine comparison test.*

*They arranged a subjective test of all the popular penetrants with the control being the torque required to remove the nut from a "scientifically rusted" environment. *

Penetrating oil ..... Average load*

None ............ ......... 516 pounds
WD-40 ............ ...... 238 pounds
PB Blaster ............ . 214 pounds
Liquid Wrench ..... 127 pounds
Kano Kroil ............ 106 pounds
ATF-Acetone mix....53 pounds

*The ATF-Acetone mix was a "home brew" mix of 50 - 50 automatic
transmission fluid and acetone.*
*Note the "home brew" was better than any commercial product in this one
particular test. Our local machinist group mixed up a batch and we all
now use it with equally good results. Note also that "Liquid Wrench" is
about as good as "Kroil" for about 20% of the price. *
*Your experience may vary, etc., etc.

Very interesting results




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