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Posted August 21, 2012 - 08:58 PM

We had this show up at show this weekend. Several guys thought it was a Copperhead. I had never seen one with these colors.

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Posted August 21, 2012 - 10:19 PM

You still need him, but I got geeked out by the subject and did some google picture shows of PA snakes. The markings aren't consistent with a copperhead. My guess is for Eastern Milk Snake. Though it looks like it can get a ton of different colors, this was one of the variations which showed up.

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Posted August 21, 2012 - 10:36 PM

Kinda looks like what we call a bull-snake around these parts. Ryan where ya at?

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Posted August 21, 2012 - 10:49 PM

I am not up on snakes in Texas, kinda looks like aa wter snake. Is there any water around the area?

Copperheads have bands around their body, the bands are fat on the sides and skinny over the backbone. Google it and you will know exactly what I mean if you don't already.

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Posted August 22, 2012 - 05:04 AM

How big is that Brian? Hard to tell without something for scale. No poisonous snakes for us to worry about up here.

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Posted August 22, 2012 - 06:18 AM

How big is that Brian? Hard to tell without something for scale. No poisonous snakes for us to worry about up here.


We don't have to worry about them here either. I do NOT like snakes at all!

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Posted August 22, 2012 - 07:17 AM

Every August, I see Copperheads in my yard. At dusk I am very wary of walking around with out looking down. My wife about 2 years ago.....was walking to the shed and turned the flashlight on as she walked.....and saw 2 copperheads- one in front and one behind her.....I am told where there is one there are many......like the rest....no friend of mine.

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Posted August 22, 2012 - 07:49 AM

Copperheads have an "hour glass" shaped marking (as Ryan described) if you look down on them also there heads are much more of an equilateral triangle shaped head.

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Posted August 22, 2012 - 08:07 AM

How big is that Brian? Hard to tell without something for scale.



Yes Brian, how about something for scale. Like a regular sized hoe head say in the middle of the snakes head or neck area. It would give us a sense of scale and RELIEF. lol

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Posted August 22, 2012 - 08:11 AM

I am not up on snakes in Texas, kinda looks like aa wter snake. Is there any water around the area?

Copperheads have bands around their body, the bands are fat on the sides and skinny over the backbone. Google it and you will know exactly what I mean if you don't already.


Not in Texas, as Brian was in PA when they found that snake.

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Posted August 22, 2012 - 09:45 AM

Not in Texas, as Brian was in PA when they found that snake.

Yes, South Central Pennsylvania.
Here is a picture of a milk snake that I though was closest.
http://www.mwparc.org/photo/?24

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Posted August 22, 2012 - 10:19 AM

Oh! I did not catch that it was in PA. Since it is up here now, I am going to say it is a northern water snake, like the ones I catch all the time.

Dean, it is defiantly not an eastern milk, they have a Y or V shape on the back of their head. But, they do come in a wide range of colors!

http://www.wildlife...._milk_snake.htm

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Posted August 22, 2012 - 10:31 AM

Thanks Guys, I thought it wasn't poisonous, but want to know for sure. It was 3 1/2 to 4 feet long, a pretty large snake in my book.

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Posted August 22, 2012 - 10:49 AM

Thanks Guys, I thought it wasn't poisonous, but want to know for sure. It was 3 1/2 to 4 feet long, a pretty large snake in my book.


I think you mean venomous? :poke:

But, if you did mean poisonous, it is not, nor is it venomous. Water snakes have strong jaw muscles, that is why they have the triangle shaped head. But, I can see it has a round pupil not a cat like eye with the slit.
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Posted August 22, 2012 - 11:00 AM

Looks like what we would call a checkered adder around here.




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