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#1 lyall ONLINE  

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Posted August 17, 2012 - 10:14 PM

got a lawn roller at a garage sale for $20. it is filled with sand. took three of us to get it in the back of my pickup
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I painted it because there was no paint on it.

got a lawn cart the $10 it was red it color and it was starting to rust so I painted it - I like green
one of the wheels rim was in bad shape
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I had a pair of old wheels of a 212 - I parted out
had to get some bushing from 3/4" to 1" then a used some small roll pin to keep them in place on the 3/4" axle - cost $10 for the bushings and roll pins.

it is a good cart but I am thinking changing it so that it dumps better - I have some ideas just have to see how it works out. I hate shoveling things out of it, i just want to dump and go.

I work on a 210 last winter for a friend ( he got it from his grandfather), and he asked me to working on it. had to fix a broke steering wheel. fix the deck, is uncle ran into something and bent it up and almost ripped off the supports. had to get it welded back up and straight out. it needed new deck bearing, so I replaced them all. and painted the deck.
I tuned it up. but it smoked a little. checked the valves and worked on the carb. put new motor mounts on it. it still smoke a little - he did not want to have it rebuild at this time.
it was a good winter project and I had fun. I charged him just for parts and a little gas money to get from his place to mine and back (20 mile each way)

so the other day he said that he has to sell the 210 and he want around $150 - I told him that i don't need another garden tractor and that I would see if I could find somebody that would.
then he call and said that it has to go. he is redoing his garage and his wife said it goes.
he said that I can have it for $100. I said okay and went to get it. I hated that his wife that it had to go. being that is was his grandfathers

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I mowed with it for around a hour and a half, it smoked most of the time. it only used about 2 oz of oil. it starts great and runs great, but I do not like smelling burning oil. I check to see if the breather was plugged - it is not, so it got to be the intake valve guide or the rings.
I checked the plug and it is black, but it wipes off easily.
did a compress test on it and it is around 90 lbs. I just used the compress tester and hit the switch and let it turn over a few times, I did it twice to make sure the it was reading around 90 lbs.
Yes I know that it not the right way to check the compress test, but just want to see how good it is.
My old 110 (8 hp) compress test runs around 80 lbs and it does not smoke like the 210. and to old 110 smokes at start up for a few minutes. it would be great to rebuild it and put in new valve guides
it would be a great little mower.

What do you all think about the 210 smoking?
any ideas?

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Edited by lyall, August 17, 2012 - 10:31 PM.

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Posted August 17, 2012 - 10:36 PM

Some good deals there! Somebody really did a number on that wheel!


If it is burning oil, and smoking, I think the rings are probobly bad. I would replace the rings and hone the cylender. If the cylinder walls are damaged, bore it over a little bit and put a bigger piston in! Just my guess, I could be wrong!
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Posted August 18, 2012 - 12:03 AM

Very nice find!! If its smoking, then at the very least it will need rings, and possibly rebored. For the price you got it for, even if you do have to rebuild it, your in good shape! :thumbs:

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Posted August 18, 2012 - 12:27 AM

The lawn cart for ten bucks is a jackpot :thumbs: But I newer saw a painted lawn roller, saw only rusty ones the last fifty years :D - looks real good. You remember me a lil bit my friend Michel here at D. If a restauration is done, the result is good, green and yellow :ok:

In case of the smoking JD I see it like Ryan & Matt. When the carb and valves are ok then are only the cylinder with piston and pistonrings leaving

Edited by jd.rasentrac, August 18, 2012 - 01:11 AM.

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Posted August 18, 2012 - 04:32 AM

Check to see if the oil has gas in it. I had my MTD flooding the oil with gas, put an inline shutoff. Changed the oil. Quit smoking and runs much better and quieter.
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Posted August 18, 2012 - 04:36 AM

Great find.
Wow,that wheel is really bent.
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Posted August 18, 2012 - 05:15 AM

By the way, that trailer is what I started with when I made my dump trailer.
Where did you find the 3/4" to 1" bushings?

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Posted August 18, 2012 - 05:30 AM

Have fun with the new toys. slkpk
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Posted August 18, 2012 - 05:47 AM

Sounds like some nice finds Lowell. That cart looks great with the fatter wheels/tires on it. I'd pull the head and have a look see. Carbon buildup can cause some problems in those engines as well. Since it's not burning a lot of oil chances are it can be put right with a little work at this point. It looks to be in good overall shape and with a fresh engine you could sell for a nice profit or keep it for a spare mower.
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Posted August 18, 2012 - 09:26 AM

Great looking items. I like the cart for 10. 10 more into it and you are good. Congratulations.
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Posted August 18, 2012 - 08:53 PM

the rim rusted bad - it must have been in dirt for a while
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Posted August 21, 2012 - 09:48 PM

I took the motor out off the 210 and took it apart to check it over.
the rings are bad. the cylinder wall looks and fills good. check it over and it looks like it needs a ring job. will check the valves, and will do a valve job on them. now the get gaskets and rings
then it will be a good tractor again - no more smoking - yeah
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Posted August 21, 2012 - 10:04 PM

Yeah, buddy is right. Glad to see them saved from the pile.
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Posted August 24, 2012 - 10:09 PM

checked the valves they had carbon build up and it looked like they were not closing all the way. clean up and checked for wear - checked okay from top the bottom of the stems. just need to lap job. checked the piston and the top ring I could get a .020 filler gauge in the top ring groove with the ring in one area , check the other two ring checked okay by specs. so need a new piston.

checked the cylinder wall - looks good but I used the top ring a pushed it down with the piston and using my filler gauge it was reading .079 - pushed in down around a inch and I got .075. pushed the ring down another inch or so and still got .075 - pushed it down another inch and still at .075 - pushed it down to the oil ring mark and still got .075, so I pushed down to about half way to the bottom of the cylinder and got .073

checked the crank and it is good

so I am going to get and std piston and rings and rod

the reasons for getting a new rod is that a friend that used to working on lawn mowers said he always replaced the rod with new piston - had less problems and lasted longer.

checked on ebay and a guy is sell a rebuild kit for around $63 shipping with out rod and with and with new rod for $88

from bakt4kids. he his sold around 55000 items

has anybody had problem with that guy?
and what do you think of his parts?
he says they are new Stens/Rotary, high quality rebuild kits
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Posted September 01, 2012 - 05:06 PM

Nice 210
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