Jump to content

Nominations for Tractor of the Month
Garden Tractors and Parts on eBay



Photo
- - - - -

Johnson 10 Loader On A Wheel Horse Raider


  • Please log in to reply
13 replies to this topic

#1 jdslednut OFFLINE  

jdslednut

    Tractorholic

  • Senior Member
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Contributor
  • Member No: 77
  • 636 Thanks
  • 837 posts
  • Location: Winthrop, MN

Posted August 15, 2012 - 04:42 PM

Anyone have drawings or pictures of the undercarriage set-up to fit a Johnson 10 loader on a Wheel Horse Raider? My loader was originally on a CC Original and I'd like to fit it to my Raider 14. Or, anyone just happen to have the bracket(s) around collecting dust just itchin' to get rid of it?

#2 IamSherwood OFFLINE  

IamSherwood

    Elf guardian

  • Senior Member
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Contributor
  • Member No: 2066
  • 8,379 Thanks
  • 7,696 posts
  • Location: Northern Ontario

Posted August 15, 2012 - 07:53 PM

Sorry, I can't help you out, but I'd sure like to see it when you're done.

#3 John@Reliable OFFLINE  

John@Reliable

    Procrastinators unite tomorrow

  • Senior Member
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Contributor
  • Member No: 36
  • 1,295 Thanks
  • 1,416 posts
  • Location: Boston- Cape Cod MA

Posted August 15, 2012 - 09:07 PM

Anyone have drawings or pictures of the undercarriage set-up to fit a Johnson 10 loader on a Wheel Horse Raider? My loader was originally on a CC Original and I'd like to fit it to my Raider 14. Or, anyone just happen to have the bracket(s) around collecting dust just itchin' to get rid of it?

Come on, that would be to easy :smilewink:

#4 LilysDad ONLINE  

LilysDad

    Cat Lover

  • Senior Member
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Contributor
  • Member No: 10443
  • 9,668 Thanks
  • 7,686 posts
  • Location: N. Illinois, DeKalb County

Posted August 17, 2012 - 07:29 AM

Sorry, I can't help you out, but I'd sure like to see it when you're done.


I'd like to see it now.

#5 jdslednut OFFLINE  

jdslednut

    Tractorholic

  • Senior Member
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Contributor
  • Member No: 77
  • 636 Thanks
  • 837 posts
  • Location: Winthrop, MN

Posted March 20, 2013 - 11:16 PM

Just going to renew this thread as I am finding a little time now to play with the loader.  I believe I can figure out a suitable undercarriage for the loader but am a little dumbfounded on how to mount the front loader bracket while still having a place to have the hood hinge.  Any pics of a front end of a WH with a loader installed that I could get some ideas from?



#6 1967bolens collector OFFLINE  

1967bolens collector

    Tractorholic

  • Senior Member
  • Member No: 1920
  • 648 Thanks
  • 1,437 posts
  • Location: carney's point new jersey

Posted March 25, 2013 - 08:48 PM

i never seen a wheel horse with a loader

#7 Cvans ONLINE  

Cvans

    Tractorholic

  • Senior Member
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Member No: 5412
  • 4,516 Thanks
  • 5,031 posts
  • Location: Eastern SD.

Posted March 25, 2013 - 10:13 PM

Post some photos of the front of the tractor and the loader. Then we can probably come up with a solution.  :thumbs:



#8 John@Reliable OFFLINE  

John@Reliable

    Procrastinators unite tomorrow

  • Senior Member
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Contributor
  • Member No: 36
  • 1,295 Thanks
  • 1,416 posts
  • Location: Boston- Cape Cod MA

Posted March 25, 2013 - 10:23 PM

here's a couple, looks like they both went from tower to low on front of frame

 

29f5_3.jpg

Attached Thumbnails

  • wh.jpg


#9 jdslednut OFFLINE  

jdslednut

    Tractorholic

  • Senior Member
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Contributor
  • Member No: 77
  • 636 Thanks
  • 837 posts
  • Location: Winthrop, MN

Posted March 25, 2013 - 11:02 PM

I worked with it a bit today and have a few ideas. If I think of it ill snap some pics tomorrow.

#10 TUDOR OFFLINE  

TUDOR

    Tractorholic

  • Senior Member
  • Member No: 915
  • 543 Thanks
  • 497 posts
  • Location: Sault Ste Marie, Ontario

Posted March 26, 2013 - 03:36 AM

2x2x1/8" square tube rails from the rear axle to just behind the front axle. Clamp to the rear axle and bolt to the frame at the front.

 

2x2x1/8 square tube, or 2x4x1/8" rectangular tube cross bar at the desired location for the posts.

 

The diagonal brace to the front is sorta important if you want it to survive.

 

There's not a whole lot of info on tractordata.com for your tractor. How heavy is it?



#11 Cvans ONLINE  

Cvans

    Tractorholic

  • Senior Member
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Member No: 5412
  • 4,516 Thanks
  • 5,031 posts
  • Location: Eastern SD.

Posted March 26, 2013 - 08:20 PM

Both of those photos are of the "D" series tractors which are much larger than a Raider. The frame on the Raider is just 2 angle irons running down the center under the engine with a matching angle iron running across the front. Really not a lot of support for a loader and inclined to twisting which is bad on a loader tractor. A sub frame would be necessary in order to withstand much in the way of loader work. 



#12 jdslednut OFFLINE  

jdslednut

    Tractorholic

  • Senior Member
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Contributor
  • Member No: 77
  • 636 Thanks
  • 837 posts
  • Location: Winthrop, MN

Posted March 26, 2013 - 09:31 PM

What kind of stress does placing tube rails connected to the rear end put on the transaxle?  Is there any worry of busting a casting?



#13 Cvans ONLINE  

Cvans

    Tractorholic

  • Senior Member
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Member No: 5412
  • 4,516 Thanks
  • 5,031 posts
  • Location: Eastern SD.

Posted March 27, 2013 - 10:11 AM

I wouldn't worry about breaking the transaxle unless your going to be really ramming things. 



#14 jdslednut OFFLINE  

jdslednut

    Tractorholic

  • Senior Member
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Contributor
  • Member No: 77
  • 636 Thanks
  • 837 posts
  • Location: Winthrop, MN

Posted March 27, 2013 - 09:48 PM

Here's a couple pics of the new front bracket that replaces the quick-tach that was present.   I plan to reinforce it along the side rails with some angle iron bolter to the frame.  My next challenge will be figuring out how to mount the undercarriage underneath the tractor and how high it should be.  I was figuring that I would mount it an appropriate height to match the tubing going back to clamp to the transaxle.  It should be easy to fab some tabs for the hood to pin on to the new bracket - should look close to a factory job (I hope).

 

loader bracket.JPG   loader bracket 2.JPG






Top