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Posted December 28, 2012 - 12:06 PM

Kenny this might give you some ideas, somewhere out there I have seen plans and how to video's for a hand powered baler. It might take me a little while to find them.

.http://www.google.co...iw=1152&bih=660


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Posted December 28, 2012 - 01:54 PM

I don't need a barn full. LOL I was just thinking maybe 10 or 12 to put on the wagon for shows. Maybe 1/3 to 1/2 the size of the rectangular bales.



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Posted December 28, 2012 - 02:49 PM

I knew that you were not needing many. I was just thinking that this would be a cool project that would be right up your alley.

The Video when I find it, the guy bales his lawn clippings with a hand powered baler and hand tied.  The larger powered units are something I have considered. The Mini Bales are selling for $7-10 a bale which is a much greater mark up than standard size square bales. Niche Markets are where a small producer can get an edge over large scale producers.


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Posted December 28, 2012 - 03:23 PM

I've got the idea floating in my head to make a box the wire and hay fits in, then use a hydraulic jack to compress. Tie off by hand, let the jack off and rotate out of the way and take the bale out (may need a pusher for that). Something rather simple. I'd have to buy a few bales to make what I want. Don't get enough clippings to make a bale when I mow.



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Posted December 28, 2012 - 03:33 PM

I've got the idea floating in my head to make a box the wire and hay fits in, then use a hydraulic jack to compress. Tie off by hand, let the jack off and rotate out of the way and take the bale out (may need a pusher for that). Something rather simple. I'd have to buy a few bales to make what I want. Don't get enough clippings to make a bale when I mow.

That would sure work Kenny. I have never hand tied bales, but have heard my father talk about riding the baler and hand tying bales before automatic tyers were put on balers.

 

If you just made the box open on both ends, you could drop a block in, ram the hay against it tye the bales and push them out the end. Drop the block back in place and go on to the next one. In fact if you just pushed the first bale far enough to clear the block, the next bale would push it out?


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Posted December 28, 2012 - 03:45 PM

Probably a little smaller than what you said Kenny but my wife bought 3 bales about 12 x 1 2x 24 at one of those craft stores.  Can't for the life of me remember what their names are but they nation wide outfits.


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Posted December 28, 2012 - 04:48 PM

Probably a little smaller than what you said Kenny but my wife bought 3 bales about 12 x 1 2x 24 at one of those craft stores.  Can't for the life of me remember what their names are but they nation wide outfits.

I'm not sure of the size I need yet. That size sounds close!


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Posted December 28, 2012 - 04:53 PM

Probably a little smaller than what you said Kenny but my wife bought 3 bales about 12 x 1 2x 24 at one of those craft stores.  Can't for the life of me remember what their names are but they nation wide outfits.

That is about the Size Hobby Farmer Magazine reccomends. They said Children and Farm wives could handle that size easily for feeding ponies and othe small farm animals. And there is a growing demand for that size.  Funny they never told my dad that bales that weighed more than I did were too heavy for me to tote?



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Posted December 28, 2012 - 05:05 PM

It'll be spring before I do any bale making. Too cold out there now!



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Posted December 29, 2012 - 07:20 AM

Kenny, I guess this morning cup of coffee got the old brain in gear, Linda either got those little bales of hay at Hobby Lobby or Michael's.


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Posted December 29, 2012 - 07:29 AM

I have checked their prices and I think I'll try making some first. Getting a size figured out will be the first thing. I have about 40" W X 70" L inside the side boards. I'd like to stack them like a 'normal' hay wagon.



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Posted December 29, 2012 - 07:52 AM

I'd missed the final pictures of your wagon Kenny, when you finished it. Boy that turned out nice.

You'll have fun with it.


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Posted December 29, 2012 - 07:53 AM

Having the exact size you want and $$$$ will be the advantage of making your own.  Don't know and probably don't want to know what Linda spends on her stuff but I know the couple of times I've gone with her I thought their prices were pretty close to giraffe ears.


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Posted December 29, 2012 - 08:38 AM

I think I'll be going with 16" long X 8" wide X 6" tall. That will fill the bed inside the side boards. Make them easy to stack. I may make a couple out of cardboard just to see if that's what I want. Being able to actually see the size makes it easier to decide. I could go taller I guess, say 9". That may look better.



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Posted December 29, 2012 - 10:59 AM

Don't guess you have to be exactly to scale so any slight adjustments shouldn't make any difference.  Just remember that if you're at a show with them make sure no one is walking around with a pet goat.


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