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#1 Dennis Cain OFFLINE  

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Posted August 03, 2012 - 01:35 PM

Have a question about the rear end . Is it best to go with chain drive to a right angle gear box then drive shaft to cub rear end ? If not what kind of rear end should I be using ? How do you get the power to the rear end ?

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Posted August 03, 2012 - 03:09 PM

No! No! You can't just come on here with a thread title like that and not have pictures. It's just not decent!!!
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Posted August 03, 2012 - 11:26 PM

No! No! You can't just come on here with a thread title like that and not have pictures. It's just not decent!!!



LOL your right there! Gotta have pics of that! I saw a website a good while back that deals in that kinda stuff. They had some wicked lookin gt's if thats what you would call them.

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Posted August 04, 2012 - 06:35 PM

This I gotta see! :wewantpics: :wewantvideo:

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Posted August 04, 2012 - 07:21 PM

Where did he go? :unsure:

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Posted August 06, 2012 - 08:40 AM

I'm wanting to pull in what my club calls a modified class . Which means the tractor as long as it keeps it conventional farm or garden tractor look it can be powered bt a motorcycle ,snowmopblie or VW engine. The problem is the people who pull in this class are secretive . So no one is willing to answer questions. I'm in the process of building a tube frame that will use my Cub Cadet sheet metal . I have a KZ1000 engine to power it ,I'm just not sure how to get that power to the ground. A chain coming off the enigine to a right angle gear box with a drive shaft to the Cub rear end or A live axle rear end set up with the chain going from the motor to a sprocket on the axle. ? Any help or ideas ? I'll post some picture soon.

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Posted August 06, 2012 - 10:32 AM

You have a ton of homework to do! Do you use the transmission on the engine? Or the one on the axle, or both ? Chain or shaft? Wow! Your options are endless!Just remember KISS!

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Posted August 06, 2012 - 11:00 AM

Could you put the engine in first gear ,run the same size of sprocket say a 12 tooth on bike motor and on the right angle gear box with a 1 to 1 ratio . The gear box shaft is then attached to the cub cadet rear end . I then can use 1,2,3,4,or R that I have in the tractor now ?

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Posted August 06, 2012 - 12:22 PM

A right angle gearbox to hold that much power is big, lunky, and very expensive. Can you turn the engine sideways and run a chain to the drive by a #50 or better chain?

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Posted August 06, 2012 - 01:18 PM

I would use a live axle with heavy chain and the engines transmission / clutch assembly to power it. If you have to cut a cub tranny case apart to fit the stuff inside of it to make it look more like a tractor then so be it.

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Posted August 06, 2012 - 06:45 PM

Personally, I believe you will lose a significant amount of power by going through a chain drive and then a right angle gear drive,and then a cub differential. I believe your best bet would be the live axle.

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Posted August 07, 2012 - 09:39 AM

So a live axle set up like whats in a qaud .

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Posted August 07, 2012 - 09:45 AM

Yes, I would set it up just like a quad using the whole tranny and clutch assembly out of a motorcycle or quad. You will loose less power and have less parts to break.

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Posted August 07, 2012 - 10:17 AM

So a live axle set up like whats in a qaud .

Yeah, that's good for not losing power. However, even if you get a really big sprocket, it's still going to want to go about 25 mph when you tach it up in first gear. You may need one more level of gear reduction. I'm not familiar with the cub differential. But I think that if you get somewhere around 3:1 to 4:1, then you'd be in the right ballpark. You'd need the rpm per gear specs on your bike engine output to get more exact than that.

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Posted August 07, 2012 - 11:59 AM

So a live axle set up like whats in a qaud .


...or how about like a go kart? You may need an extra gear reduction as has been stated.

How about a spindle, wheel and sprocket on each rear side. The chain from the m/c trans goes back to a jack shaft with an input sprocket and two output sprockets to the spindle sprockets?
Back in the early days, trucks and cars were set up like this.

Edited by LilysDad, August 07, 2012 - 12:00 PM.





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