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Posted July 11, 2012 - 02:55 PM

and it still has no spark. guess thats what i get for trying to save a few dollars . it said it replaced 52-584-02-S , but i guess they are wrong. after putting the new one on i tried to start it and no spark. put the old one on the it fired right up. im about at the end of my rope on this thing. guess ill have to save up and get one from kohler and not after market . i would even go with a known good used on just so i can start using this thing.

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Posted July 11, 2012 - 05:01 PM

Boy, DS, that stinks. I was hoping to open the thread and see good news for you.

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Posted July 12, 2012 - 01:20 PM

well i just got off the phone with TEW and they are going to send me another new one but not the same brand. we are going up in price but they are giving it to me for cost. so im really only paying about $2 more. it will be a oregon ignition module instead of a BBT brand.

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Posted July 12, 2012 - 02:40 PM

I have been using quite a few Oregon small engine parts lately and they seem to be working as good as OEM so far. Price is fair and quicker delivery than the company I was using in the spring.

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Posted July 12, 2012 - 05:29 PM

Well, that's good news. Hope this one does as it should!

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Posted July 16, 2012 - 05:00 PM

they say that the 3rd time is a charm, well not with this tractor. got the new one today and the same ol crap. no spark. this makes no sense at all.

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Posted July 16, 2012 - 05:32 PM

DS, I'm going to make a wild suggestion and it may have no effect, but you're running out of things to try... If I wasn't 4 hours away, I'd be a visitin' .

Here's my thought. Take a condenser, mount it to ground on the block, and wire it to where the new mag.
Just one of those gut feelings that I've learned not to completely ignore.

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Posted July 16, 2012 - 06:03 PM

you mean a condenser like is used for points?
with this being a electronic ignition ,where would i hook the wire to?

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Posted July 16, 2012 - 06:06 PM

DS, where is the original thread, I know you had a picture or two in it of the mag.

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Posted July 16, 2012 - 06:11 PM

post #6 here http://gardentractor...rting-problems/

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Posted July 16, 2012 - 06:48 PM

DS, I went out a ripped apart the closest thing I have to that engine here. My command 25.

It has no condenser, just a wire that provides ground kill to the mag(s) (two mags on mine). If I unplug the wire, I get spark, if I short the terminal to ground, I lose spark. Just that simple.

I so wish I could help you. I am out of ideas here. I was just thinking that systems that had the condenser, would exhibit similar symptoms to what you have.

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Posted July 16, 2012 - 06:58 PM

One more thing, I have a green wire like yours that is not connected to anything, running right next to the white wire that is connected to the mag.

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Posted July 17, 2012 - 07:57 AM

i just checked and the green wire on mine is connected to the oil sending unit. i unhooked the harness going to the kill switch and sending unit and still no spark.

i have a thought.....
could weak magnets on the flywheel cause this problem? is there any sensors inside the engine that could cause this?
i may need to start thinking of a repower if nothing else works

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Posted July 17, 2012 - 11:33 AM

Weak Magnets or a big gap will cause it, just weird that it's happening at all.

If you unplug the kill wire, it should have spark. Period. If not, it's either pickups (which you changed) or magnets (unlikely) Something is causing this and I'm not smart 'nuff to help, I guess.


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Posted July 17, 2012 - 11:58 AM

i know i must not be smart 'nuff either cause im at a total loss.
i think ill try to find a knowin good ignition module and try it. what do i have to loose?
if nothing else works, ill start looking for a good engine and repower it.




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