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#1 Clint OFFLINE  

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Posted July 10, 2012 - 09:56 AM

Hi everyone,

Well, my collection jsut grew by three. I'm up to 17 different Panzers. Yesterday I picked up a Copar, T-70 and a Penn 88.

The Penn 88 pictuers are in a different thread.

The Copar I believe is a Model A. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I found a stamp on the right frame rail. The serial number is 118. The guy I bought it from said it runs, but has governor issues. I said I'm used to that, I'm from Illinois. Lol. He said when it starts, it screams to wide open and he doesn't know why. It also is leaking oil like crazy. I am going to see about the governor concern and then pull it apart, check to see if it needs rings and then throw some new gaskets on. I am excited about finding a good looking and mostly complete Copar. I did not get any attachments for this, but I have a one bottom garden plow from a different Copar I have. The other is unpainted, incomplete and I am looking mostly for an engine for it.

I paid dearly for these, but hopefully they only need minor mechanical work. The hard part is done for me....PAINT! For some reason, I hate painting. I like the outcome, but i hate it!

The T-70 has the 90 degree PTO and what looks to be the original activation control lever on the left side of the steering wheel. It is a super simple design and is actually quite handy. It works very well. I need to rebuild the carburetor and that's about it on this one. It has the turf tires rather than the bar type and did not come with any attachments.

Here are some pictures. Please comment or ask questions. Enjoy.

Driveshaft 1.JPG

Driveshaft 2.JPG

Driveshaft 3.JPG

Front right engine view.JPG

Front view.JPG

Left front engine view.JPG

Left front view 1.JPG

Left front view 2.JPG

Left rear engine view.JPG

Left rear view.JPG

Rear view.JPG

Right front view 1.JPG

Right front view 2.JPG

Right rear engine view.JPG

Right side view.JPG

Serial No. 118.JPG



Here are some pictures of the T-70.

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101_3238.JPG

101_3241.JPG

101_3259.JPG
pto lever disengaged

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pto lever engaged

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Posted July 10, 2012 - 10:06 AM

The Copar looks real good. The governor thing may be that it's just stuck at the wide open position and may be okay once you free it and keep it from sticking. I'd think for that age/make, it would be an air vane governor right? If it's mechanical, I'd just try getting the shaft where it goes into the engine some work back and forth.

Then if it still has governor issues, then remember that most governor issues are really carb issues. The governor will yo-yo if the carb is not giving a good enough spray to keep it from having to go wide open to keep it running.

How good is the steel on the T-70? It doesn't look like it's even been run since it was painted. There was some stuff on there that shouldn't have been painted, but I'm not going to judge the tractor based on the fact that it was given the ole quicky paintjob.

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Posted July 10, 2012 - 10:21 AM

Congratulations. Really nice additions to your collection. It must be a treat to get 2 tractors that only need minor work. I also find the prep/repainting of rusty parts to be the most difficult part of a restoration.

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Posted July 10, 2012 - 10:51 AM

Those both look like great tractors to add to your collection! Good luck with them!

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Posted July 10, 2012 - 01:32 PM

Great finds! Both look to have been well taken care of and in good shape! That is definitely a plus that they are already painted for you.

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Posted July 10, 2012 - 03:02 PM

The metal is in great shape. There is A LOT that got painted that shouldn't have! There is electrical tape around the steering wheel too. Blah! That's gonna go. I have found a cheap lace type steering wheel cover makes these great to handle.

I got a tube for my "Daily driver" and will have that back up and running for the nephews to mess with.

I did not realize how wide the Copars are. They take up tons of room!

Edited by Clint, July 10, 2012 - 03:06 PM.


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Posted July 10, 2012 - 06:42 PM

It looks like someone tapped off the muffler and shot the rest. LOL.

But does look solid though. ;)

Wow that's an awesome collection.

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Posted July 10, 2012 - 09:49 PM

I'm no expert on the early Copar Panzers but I don't think that's a model A. The ID info and pics on panzertractors.com show the drive casting actually having "Model A" cast next to the Laurel, MD area.

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Posted July 11, 2012 - 06:59 AM

Yikes, 17 Panzers , my wife would shoot me, then divorce me, good score again,

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Posted July 11, 2012 - 08:02 AM

So true. Mine hated the fact I bought 1 panzer let alone 17!

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Posted July 11, 2012 - 09:02 AM

I'm no expert on the early Copar Panzers but I don't think that's a model A. The ID info and pics on panzertractors.com show the drive casting actually having "Model A" cast next to the Laurel, MD area.


Your right. I'm sure its not a Model A. I'm not sure which model it is. I am not that familiar with the Copar's just yet. I have to do a little more research. I've just been busy this last week.

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Posted July 11, 2012 - 09:06 AM

It looks like someone tapped off the muffler and shot the rest. LOL.


Oh no, he didn't tape it off, The back side of it is painted and a little on the sides, just not the front. Oh well, he still did better than I would have. I still haven't painted my first one, which I ot about 5 or 6 years ago. So, kudos to him for doing it.

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Posted July 11, 2012 - 09:09 AM

Yikes, 17 Panzers , my wife would shoot me, then divorce me, good score again,


I'm not married. Lol.

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Posted July 11, 2012 - 10:49 AM

I'm not married. Lol.

I"ll send a personal message with my # so I can be part of the fire sale when you do get married!
Gotta think ahead on these things

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Posted July 11, 2012 - 11:14 AM

If I were to ever get married, she would have to be tolerant of A LOT of things. She would have to be a saint to put up with me and would be a bonus if she know how to degrease, prep and paint as well.

Edited by Clint, July 11, 2012 - 02:42 PM.





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