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#1 Clint ONLINE  

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Posted July 06, 2012 - 10:45 AM

Hi everyone,

I have a Panzer with a modified steering system. This looked totally absurd, but it works. If you don't mind relocating your gas tank and tweaking your dash panel, this may be a solution. The guy I bought this from said he had a 20 horse kohler in this thing. I have no idea if this is true, but hey, I'd try it! He said he disassembled it when he rolled it over. I said to myself, "Self, how do you roll a Panzer?"

Parts list:

3 cable clamps.
cable
chain
gear
pillow block bushing/bearing
Miscellaneous nuts and bolts.
2 small single block type pulleys
Weld a small plate to the bottom side of your steering gear and drill a hole as shown in the pictures.

Hammer - you always need a hammer!

Anyway here are some pictures

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Lower view of the modification.

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Small plate welded to steering gear.

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Small plate welded to steering gear.

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Block pulleys to guide the steering cable.

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Pillow block mounted to under side of the grill.

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Top view of the modification.

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Small plate welded to bottom of the steering gear.

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Small plate welded to bottom of the steering gear.

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Posted July 06, 2012 - 10:52 AM

Maybe a cleaner implementation would be to keep the pillow block at the top w/gear off the steering shaft, and rig up a gear off the spline end of the steering shaft then connect the 2 gears with a chain. Does solve the steering dilemma though.

So are you restoring this beast?

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Posted July 06, 2012 - 10:58 AM

How does it feel? Seems like it would be a bit sloppy no?

Are you going to keep this setup, or revert back to stock w/smaller engine?

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Posted July 06, 2012 - 11:00 AM

Is that yours or his?
It should work okay. The points I'd watch in the system are those 2 cable loops, which probably stretch closed a little under load, and that cable clamp which prevents it from slipping under the steering block. If you ever think about reinforcing it.. What about going to all chain around 2 idler sprockets?

To your point, this would allow for a much bigger engine if you don't want the steering shaft to interfere!

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Posted July 06, 2012 - 11:08 AM

This is true. Idler sprockets would also provide a way for you to tension the setup.

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Posted July 06, 2012 - 11:24 AM

This is the type of rig I wouldn't mind modifying since most of it is missing and it's already been hacked! I have a few ideas of what I want to do. Not because it will be better, efficient or practical, but just because I can!

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Posted July 06, 2012 - 11:29 AM

The blocks are on long bolts through the grill. If the cable stretches or slips in the clamps, loosen the nut, draw the bolt throught he grill more and tighten the nuts again. You have both sides to adjust tension with so it's actually not that bad of an idea. The clamp in the middle at the gear is the issue. so I am going to clamp it tightly, and add one on each side to keep it in place. It is not that sloppy surprisingly. There is very little play when the clamp is tight.

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Posted July 06, 2012 - 11:33 AM

looks like a very efficient way to break the bars right out of that grille. Cast Iron is very fragile. Thanks for the pictures just the same.

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Posted July 06, 2012 - 11:49 AM

I think if you were neat and took your time when you set it up it could be pretty tight. Thanks for sharing!

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Posted July 06, 2012 - 01:19 PM

So is it safe to assume your steering wheel is almost parallel with the dash or 90deg from the hood?

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Posted July 06, 2012 - 02:55 PM

Interesting and I'm sure it works OK. I'd also be wondering about the grill and if it can take the force applied to it.

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Posted July 06, 2012 - 03:42 PM

Interesting and I'm sure it works OK. I'd also be wondering about the grill and if it can take the force applied to it.

That's one thing he doesn't have to worry about. Cast iron nose. But it's nice of everyone taking a good look and giving their recommendations.

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Posted July 06, 2012 - 03:45 PM

That's one thing he doesn't have to worry about. Cast iron nose. But it's nice of everyone taking a good look and giving their recommendations.

Never seen a Panzer in real life and never will in these parts. I'm hoping to get to some GT shows in the future where I may find one.

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Posted July 06, 2012 - 04:41 PM

So is it safe to assume your steering wheel is almost parallel with the dash or 90deg from the hood?


Yes. The steering wheel on this one is pretty much perpindicular to the ground. Hey, do you want it to be comfortable, or fit your engine? It's really not that noticeable. I drove it around while another Panzer pulled it.

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Posted July 06, 2012 - 05:22 PM

Neat modification to make the tractor suit your needs. :thumbs:

I was trying to figure, does it still have the 20 in there, or is being put it?




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