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#1 middleageddeere OFFLINE  

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Posted June 28, 2012 - 10:16 AM

Ok, so I have been looking for a JD 420/430 for a very long time. I finally have the money and have found one that suits my needs. But wait there's more! The problem is I also found a really good deal on a JD 650. So, now I can't pick and I don't want to sit around and miss both...I know what the immediate answer is going to be, "It depends on your situation" or "Pick the one that suits you best" Well, that is just it they both suit me about the same. I don't really want to mow with either, the 650 would be a bit big for my garden but the 420 would be a little small for a logging project coming up...Any help or insight would be greatly appreciated! Thanks

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Posted June 28, 2012 - 11:15 AM

I'd get the 650 if you don't have anything that size already.
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Posted June 28, 2012 - 11:26 AM

Just make the garden big enough for the 650 to play in- uh better make that work in, sounds better to others.
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Posted June 28, 2012 - 11:36 AM

Yeah, I am starting to lean that way...I know that 3100 hours on a GT would be a lot but on something like that 650...? Still open to more opinions too...

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Posted June 28, 2012 - 11:45 AM

I would go with the 650 myself, but then condition is everything. Any pics of either? Attachments for the 420 are slim to find, but attachments for the cat 1 are easy to find anywhere. A rear pto for the JD's are VERY pricey if it isn't so equipped. The 650 will have anything you need.
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Posted June 28, 2012 - 11:48 AM

No pics on the 420 yet, here is the 650. I was thinking the same about the 3 pt and PTO...

http://lansing.craig...3098737769.html

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Posted June 28, 2012 - 11:49 AM

Simple! You can do small projects with a big tractor but doing large projects with a small tractor can be very frustrating. Go with the 650 and trade down later if need be. :thumbs:
You posted the picture just before I did so I'm editing this. Check to see if it has the differential lock. That will come in handy with your logging. 3100 hrs on a well cared for diesel isn't that many. Check for blow by on the engine. A little is OK, more than that is not good. Your going to be using the 3pt so make sure it functions and holds as it should. Otherwise those old JD Yanmars are good tractors.
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Posted June 28, 2012 - 12:11 PM

I don't think the 650 is really that much big then the 430. I think you will be much happier with the 650, IMHO.
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Posted June 28, 2012 - 12:11 PM

Cvans, that is a really good point. I have always felt for blow by at the oil fill or watched for smoke coming out of the oil fill, are there any other (better) ways? Also, anything else to look for on a tractor like this?

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Posted June 28, 2012 - 12:13 PM

Can I ask why you think that Brian?

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Posted June 28, 2012 - 12:17 PM

It,s more of a utility tractor with more ground clearance. I think it the woods logging, you will want that extra ground clearance.
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Posted June 28, 2012 - 12:18 PM

Good point...

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Posted June 28, 2012 - 12:24 PM

I see in your signature you already have a 317 for the smaller jobs that the 420/430 would be best at. No question the 650 would broaden your spectrum. And for Logging projects the 650 would do things the 420/430 would possibly struggle at.Sometimes Bigger is Better.
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Posted June 28, 2012 - 12:27 PM

Looking at the 650, as long as she runs out good, I'd buy it! The weights I assume come with it, and they would be the ticket when you start dragging logs. Fill the rear tires with fluid & you could drag like mad! I prefer hydrostatic, but then I love my Massey 1010 stick!
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Posted June 28, 2012 - 03:20 PM

I have always felt for blow by at the oil fill or watched for smoke coming out of the oil fill, are there any other (better) ways?

On these older tractors there is usually a crankcase breather. That's a good place to check for blow by. If you don't see any then stick your finger over the end of the tube and hold it there. If everything is working well there will be little or no pressure build up. I prefer this method as you don't have to deal with spraying oil.
If your going to look at it ask the owner not to start it before you get there. That way you can check the cold starting and any unusual noises when it is cold. Run and drive it until it is up to normal operating temperature Check all gears and ranges for unusual noises. If it has been pressure washed look for signs of oil leaks after you have run it for a while. Other than that just listen to your gut feelings. If that little voice starts warning you -walk away-.
Hope everything goes well for you and please keep us updated.
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