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#1 Dieselcowboy OFFLINE  

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Posted June 27, 2012 - 10:29 AM

Have any of you ever made a 1/2 scale 4 wheel wagon for your GT? I am looking to build a wagon that looks and functions like it's big brother. Not sure of what to use for axles, wheel size. I know to acheive what I want everything will have to be custom fabed which is not a problem. Your ideas, measurements and pics would be greatly apprecated. Close up pics are awesome too.

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Posted June 27, 2012 - 11:48 AM

Are you going ornamental or do you want a working wagon? There are already built units available for use on hobby farms, Running Gear are available you can build your own deck on etc . I've seen them but would have to do some research to find the links.
I'll try to find something tonight.
but you can start by looking here
http://www.countryma...tvequipment.htm

Don't forget to click on the Utility Wagons Button, They have Wheels,Tires and stub axles if your building from scratch.

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Posted June 27, 2012 - 12:16 PM

Don Campbell just built a nice little one. I posted a link below. It is on pages 17 and 18. And looks like he is building another on page 19.

http://gardentractor...y/page__st__240

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Posted June 27, 2012 - 01:29 PM

I'll follow this as I have an interest in building one! Glad you brought it up!

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Posted June 27, 2012 - 01:47 PM

I do want a working wagon. After the Panzer restoration I just did my funds are plenty bradley depleted. Besides there is lots of stuff laying around everywhere to build these projects from. Old mows, steel, and srcap. So lower the budget the better. I would like to try to just down scale my david bradley.

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Posted June 27, 2012 - 04:40 PM

I built a 4 wheel cart and put seats on it. I used a Muarry riding mower chassis. Someboby liked it better then I did, because they offered more money then I could refuse

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Posted June 27, 2012 - 05:03 PM

I think, for the day to day stuff, using 2 front axels from an LT would work just fine. Limited weight capacity, but not too bad. Tires are cheaper, replacement parts abundant, probably can get all you need from the back scrap pile.

Make the front one steer with parts from the original steering and weld the rear straight and solid. I suppose you could just drill & pin the back sleeves, but a quality weld would be faster.

As for the center pivot, the front could pivot a little, may even help on terrain, but I would have the back one fixed solid.


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Posted June 27, 2012 - 05:13 PM

I have a frame from an old go-kart. Looking to use the axles and build up from there.

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Posted June 27, 2012 - 05:16 PM

I have a frame from an old go-kart. Looking to use the axles and build up from there.


Also a unit that has readily replaceable and (more or less) reasonable parts supplies.

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Posted June 27, 2012 - 07:04 PM

Yeah I only posted that link to give you an idea what was available.
The two front axles would work and the Go-kart frame would make a good one too.
It' does not have to take much to make a cart.
My first garden cart came in a deal along with a 12 hp Murray. It was just recycled bedframe angle with a gavanized pipe tongue.
By the time the floor and sides were made of old 2X10's and one job I used it for was spreading 17 truckloads of woodchips on my garden(REA was clearing out along the power lines and did not wat to drive 15 miles to the county landfill. And I had a use for them)
I was 30 yrs younger and I was going to break before the cart did.

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Posted June 30, 2012 - 12:49 AM

OK, found an axle that will do the job in the scrap pile out of an old Montgomery Wards mower. Perfect front axle. Have a 1x2 box that will be the rear axle. Set of spindles for the rear. Pics of how it becomes to follow. Took some pics of my David Bradley wagon yesterday and hopefully it can turn out to be a scaled down model of it. Little "cooler" that way. More like a big wagon.
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Posted June 30, 2012 - 09:06 AM

Will be watching for pictures.
What wheel size are you using?

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Posted June 30, 2012 - 09:45 AM

I'm with Alan, watching for pics. May be a while before I do anything. I will be using 16-6.50X8's though.

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Posted June 30, 2012 - 12:45 PM

Question on the front axle. Where should/would be the best place for the tie rods, behind or in front of the axle? Just found out the front tires a 6" wheels. Oh well! I'll go with them.

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Posted June 30, 2012 - 02:56 PM

Kenny, kind

Question on the front axle. Where should/would be the best place for the tie rods, behind or in front of the axle? Just found out the front tires a 6" wheels. Oh well! I'll go with them.

Kenny, kind of depends on what kind of tongue you're emulating. On big wagons, most of them are pivot and tie rods all up front, but they have a lot of mass to keep from sliding the front end. On a smaller four wheeler, i would think that some distance between the pivot and the arms would be a good thing for more leverage. Just need to mock up a little to make sure your turn radius is right. I think that if the pivot is behind the axel, you'll want them up front, but if the pivot is in front, you'll want them behind would work best, but again, turn radius and ease of turning will be a balancing act.




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