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#1 cutley26 OFFLINE  

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Posted June 08, 2012 - 08:50 PM

Can any one possibly lay a piece of paper on the rear section of there frame. I am looking for the section where the rear axial bolts fast . The side on my 1971 case 444 are cracked someone welded plats over top and looks really bad . I am tearing it down for a restoration and need to make new side sections . I can send pics of my frame if needed anyone please. I don't want to take her to the scrapper !!!!!

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Posted June 08, 2012 - 09:21 PM

I have a 442 and 446 that I may be able to help you with. I need a little better description (or PICS would be better) of what you need exactly and I'll see what I can do. (mine both '72-73) Info on the early one is pretty hard to come by, but I think they are the same ,but we'll need to be certain.
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Posted June 09, 2012 - 04:43 AM

Pics would be nice. You don't often hear of those breaking. It's good to know where the weak spots are when looking to purchase one!

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Posted June 09, 2012 - 08:48 AM

Here are the pics the first 2 are where the previous owner riged the frame back together with angle iron a steel rod and a a piece of 3/4 square stock . I allready started cutting the mess away and noticed a crack on eithersied right where the diamond plate that the control valve bolt to , The frame in the last picture showes the frame as it should be the open hole in the rear section is what i need to replace . So I can work with a template or if some one would cut the section off of another frame. I can fishplate it back together but I would need the new section to be cut about 6 " longer to make room for the fishplates on the inside of the frame .

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Posted June 11, 2012 - 05:06 AM

Sorry, its taking so long for your answer, but finally today I should have the time to send some pics.

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Posted June 11, 2012 - 04:07 PM

Sorry, its taking so long for your answer, but finally today I should have the time to send some pics.

Unforntunately these won't help much with the tinwork in place etc.---DUH!-- These are a 442 and a 446 (Sunsets-prior to '73) Anyway its 13" from the dash tower base to the seat frame front and another 9 1/2" to the seat frame rear panel Plus the 1 inch flange which mounts to differential bolts--Sorry, I wasn't much help.

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Posted June 17, 2012 - 11:16 AM

I had to remove the tinwork to find reliable paint matches and here are photos and dimensions if you are still looking for help.
The open space begins at 13 1/4" rearward from the base of the dash tower and extends another 11 1/4 to the end.
There are 4 mounting holes for the seat/fender/gas tank assy, drilled 1/2 inch diam. at a 7 3/8 x 9 3/4 pattern which is 7/8 inch from the read end of the frame. (Curiously, the left two are tapped level with the diamond plate and the right 2 are drilled 5/8 and tapped 1/2" into the lower angle flange-no idea why).

3/4 x 1 3/4 angle was welded at the edge of the diamond plate and across the rear of the frame to attach the differential housing. I did NOT measure their locations as yours may be slightly different-You can see those bolt heads in the picture. If you center, and measure your housing, you will know where to drill the angle iron for your fit, before you weld in place.

Lastly, 2 gasoline tank perches are spot welded 3 3/4 from the frame rear. They are "Z'd" and formed (likely heated) into a slight arch- the upper and lower "Z" flanges are 5/8 apart and 7/8" wide each x 5 3/4 long.P6160316.JPG P6160317.JPG P6160318.JPG P6160319.JPG P6160320.JPG

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Posted July 05, 2012 - 09:57 AM

i have a frame from a224 laying around if you need it if your ever up to buffalo im just over the bridge about 5 miles jim
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