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Posted June 23, 2012 - 12:38 PM

4-wheel is much harder to back. Just ask any farmer with a hay trailer. I rely on mirrors to do any backing, thanks to the whiplash injuries I have. I can't turn my head enough to see what is going on back there.

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Posted June 26, 2012 - 12:04 AM

Wish I knew how many times I failed at backing in the hay wagon before we installed the front hitch on the tractor. World of difference to be able to quickly respond instead of reacting too late.

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Posted June 26, 2012 - 12:18 AM

There are a lot of things I don't do very well, just ask my wife. She has a whole list, but backing wagons isn't one of them. I just had to remember to steer to opposite that I thought it needed to be.

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Posted June 26, 2012 - 10:56 AM

Just about the time I think I have backing a trailer or wagon down I go and really mess up. A couple of weeks ago I had to go pick up a tractor to repair and had to back into the drive way off a busy street I thought I would never get it in there. I finally did but it was in there at an angle.

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Posted June 26, 2012 - 03:58 PM

Since my yard is small, Alan, I spend lots of time thinking/ piddling. I like to do a lot of 'what if's' on things. That's part of what I was looking for the JD front axle for. It would make a great front axle on a 4-wheel wagon!


I want a wagon instead of a trailer so that I can leave it loaded if I want. most of the time I should not have to back it and If the becomes a problem I'll make a trailer too :smilewink:

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Posted June 26, 2012 - 04:06 PM

I have no problem backing, as long as I have mirrors. Can't turn my head far enough to look out the back window.

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Posted June 26, 2012 - 05:19 PM

My parents got a new truck. Has that camera in the tailgate that shows up in the r view mirror. Boy, talk about distracting. Backing up with that fisheye thing is like taking an A.D.D. Rorschach test.

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Posted June 26, 2012 - 05:46 PM

Hmmmmm? Camera mounted on trailer, screen on tractor. Back over all kinds of stuff! :bigrofl:

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Posted June 26, 2012 - 07:29 PM

Boy, talk about distracting. Backing up with that fisheye thing is like taking an A.D.D. Rorschach test.


And you know what it is like to take this test??? :bigrofl:
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Posted July 03, 2012 - 11:34 AM

I had plans to make a 4 wheeled wagon and I think I am opting for a trailer build instead. I just don't think I have the ability to figure out the axles and turning with a wagon...

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Posted July 03, 2012 - 01:31 PM

I want a wagon instead of a trailer so that I can leave it loaded if I want. most of the time I should not have to back it and If the becomes a problem I'll make a trailer too :smilewink:


I still think the best compromize is a tandem wheel trailer. It backs up like a trailer and yet the vast majority of the load is on 4 wheels for support. If I were building that's the direction I would go.
I'm also thinking since my acreage is all one big hill Surge Brakes would be a big asset.

Edited by JD DANNELS, July 03, 2012 - 01:33 PM.


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Posted July 03, 2012 - 01:36 PM

I'll see what I can do on the tarp, Will! Don't need things blowing out in traffic! :laughingteeth: :thumbs: Think I need one of those "Stay Back 200 Feet " decals? :bounce:
Al, hadn't thought of that one. Possibily by putting the pins on the tailgate at the right place, that could work. I just stuck these on, hadn't thought of it laying flat to extend the trailer, like a pickup tailgate. Right now, I lift the bed a bit, remove 2 bolts and the tailgate is off for longer things (limbs, etc.). Hmmmmmmmmmm? :confuse: Got me thinking again, Al! This could be dangerous! :smilewink:


Kenny don't forget the "Do not Follow into Work Zone" sign.

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Posted July 03, 2012 - 02:27 PM

Backing up a four wheel trailer isnt easy but like everything else the more you do it the better you get, also bear in mind by jackknifing it you can pretty much turn it in its own length, you can get in and out of some very tight spots with one.

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Posted July 03, 2012 - 02:45 PM

This guy does well...



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Posted July 03, 2012 - 02:55 PM

Backing up a four wheel trailer isnt easy but...


by that I assume you mean a wagon... just for clarification: Trailer = one axle. Tandem Trailer = two axles close together, toward the back of the bed and neither steer. Wagon = two axles, front axle is steerable and at the front of the bed and the rear is not steerable and is at the back of the bed.

On another note, why couldn't you fab the tongue so that it would not move side to side (but still able to swing vertically) and then for front wheels use zero turn mower style wheels. That way they could be fully load bearing and the "wagon" would still back like a "trailer".


by the way, sorry for the thread hijack...

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Edited by twostep, July 03, 2012 - 02:55 PM.

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