582 With Siezed Engine... What Are The Options
Posted May 25, 2012 - 07:11 PM
Posted May 25, 2012 - 07:30 PM
Posted May 25, 2012 - 08:27 PM
Edited by ad356, May 25, 2012 - 08:32 PM.
Posted May 26, 2012 - 08:36 PM
Posted May 26, 2012 - 08:54 PM
i noticed working on my 147 that where the yellow paint was flakeing off that underneath the yellow it is painted red. i think originally the transmissions for the farmall cub and the cub cadets were built on the same assembly line and that the cub cadets just recieved an additional coat of yellow.
What is underneath is most likely the primer coat. My 107 has the same thign happening to it. It's not really a red color I bet but more of a salmon like color. The inside of the transmissions were coated with it as well. Your 147's transmission is not even close to the same as a Farmall Cub. They have a basic same shape to the final drive housing on the outside and the ring gear is the same but that is it. The rest of it is different as the Farmall Cub was never made as a hydro and the hydro tranny is a completely different case then a gear drive.
Another point is that yes the gear drive transmissions DID indeed go down the same assembly line. However a transmission bound for a cub cadet was only given a very short input shaft whereas the Farmall Cub transmission was given an input shft a couple feet long to run through the torque tube of the tractor to the clutch. It can go even a step farther in the Farmall Cub trannies on the assembly line as ones bound for a Cub had a straight gearshift lever and ones bound for a Cub Lowboy had a lever that was bent over more like a Cub Cadet lever.
Edited by IHCubGuy, May 26, 2012 - 09:09 PM.
Posted May 26, 2012 - 09:03 PM
i know cub cadets fairly well and i know this machine is not the 582 special. it has a 3 speed shaft driven trasmission with a traditional cub cadet clutch. i guess i thought these transmissions werent built by IH becuase they are painted black all of the IH built cub cadet transmissions were painted the color of the tractor. i assumed they were something different becuase they were black. i
You are correct here. when CCC took over the line they started building the transmissions in the tractors from scratch (after existing supply was used up from what IH had built in parts). The transmisson tooling was one thing that MTD did not buy from IH, for 2 good reasons. One the tooling was VERY OLD and wore out (it had been making those transmissions since 1947 when the Cub was launched). Secondly the EPA was tightening regulations on steel manufacturing at the time and it was better from that standpoint to make transmission housings from Aluminum to avoid this. The basic shell is "close" on the outside, but not exact. The innards are the same and the bearings ride on steel collars within the aluminum case. As for the color CCC decided that they were not changing the transmission color for IH built tractors so everything after CCC took over is a black transmission be it a IH badged unit painted red or a Cub Cadet badged unit painted yellow and white.
Edited by IHCubGuy, May 26, 2012 - 09:06 PM.
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Posted May 26, 2012 - 09:55 PM
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