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Posted May 25, 2012 - 02:01 PM

Dang....I is a DUMMY! :blush2: :blush2: :blush2: :blush2:

I just looked at those pics again, and I missed the OBVIOUS :blush2: :blush2: :blush2: :blush2:

It's the CHAINS that it's using from the rock shaft to the lift arms! If those were replaced by solid rods that would give you down pressure, as long as the hydraulic cylinder is a double acting one.

You would want at least one of the rods 'adjustable' so that you could level the implements, or in the case of a single bottom plow, angle it to be vertical when you have the right wheels in the furrow.


Dont beat yourself Ol'Buzzard, I should've explained in detail what I really needed info about.
What I wanted to know was : 1. Is this a correct 3 point system? 2. Could I modify it to get my bedder to stay down and not float on the ground? or is it supposed to be built with chains and that I are the problem by hooking me attachments wrong? :blush2:


Down pressure is only of limited use because any down pressure removes weight from the rear wheels and limits your traction. Most attachments don't t require extra down pressure if they are setup properly. Sometimes you can add weight to the attachment to make it dig in better. Nice tractor and hitch! Take a good look at the linkage and cylinder. The hitch may not apply down pressure if the linkage is designed to float.


The down pressure Im talking about is not to press the attachment down per say. Its to keep it down whe lowered.
Sorry, my bad :rolleyes:

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Posted May 25, 2012 - 04:39 PM

No it is not a orginal 3 point for this tractor. As for the chains after looking at the way it is set up they would allow some float in the system which is needed and if hooked up solid it would most likely brake something. You could add some weight to the attachment to help hold it down.

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Posted May 25, 2012 - 08:04 PM

No it is not a orginal 3 point for this tractor. As for the chains after looking at the way it is set up they would allow some float in the system which is needed and if hooked up solid it would most likely brake something. You could add some weight to the attachment to help hold it down.

I tried adding cinderblocks but its a pain. I figured that with the shovel I would need a stiffer hold than the one I have now. When I look at the factory 3 pt, they do have solid down members, not chains. I guess they can be usefull for some purpose and not so much for others?

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Posted May 25, 2012 - 08:59 PM

The reason that the factory's is solid is because there is a float position on the main hydraulic system.

For the tractors like the 1256 with no float position on the hydraulics, the lift arms have slots which gives them a 'mechanical' float.
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Posted May 26, 2012 - 07:25 AM

The reason that the factory's is solid is because there is a float position on the main hydraulic system.

For the tractors like the 1256 with no float position on the hydraulics, the lift arms have slots which gives them a 'mechanical' float.


I see, since mine is hooked to the secondary hydraulics I have no float on it. If I understand correctly, using hard down members would put heavy stress on both the 3 pt and the frame and could bend the rod or damage the packing on the hydro-cylinder?

What a pain, Where am I gonna go with this? The snow blade wont work if it can just slide over the snow. And weights added on it are, in my view, not an option..... Although.... They COULD counter-balance the (extremely) heavy snow blower. It might put more strain on the engine because Ive heavy cast iron wheel weight already plus me and the blower it must add-up to a lot of weight.

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Posted May 26, 2012 - 07:54 AM

I wouldn't worry too much about weight and/or 'putting strain in the engine'.

I have a FEL, the big tiller (which weighs @250#), plus 220# of Rim Guard in the rear tires on my 1886 , and the engine doesn't even breathe hard.

You could probably get by with the aux hydraulics and solid arms, as long as you are careful to just lower the 3-pt only as far as you need to.

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Posted May 26, 2012 - 09:56 PM

OK nothing to do with my or your tractors mates, but....
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Posted May 27, 2012 - 04:14 AM

You're pregnant?

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Posted May 27, 2012 - 06:31 AM

Well technically it would be the missus, but thats the general idea yes. :)

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Posted May 27, 2012 - 06:33 AM

Congratulations are in order then!
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Posted May 27, 2012 - 07:21 AM

OK nothing to do with my or your tractors mates, but....
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Wow, I think this deserves it's own thread! Congrats!
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Posted May 27, 2012 - 07:26 AM

I started one in off topic with a redirect to your post with the pic. Tell Mom we said congrats as well.
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Posted May 27, 2012 - 08:51 AM

Congrats! And yes it is about GT's, as it's now time to think about the tike's first tractor!
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Posted May 27, 2012 - 03:25 PM

Congratulations!

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Posted May 28, 2012 - 06:08 PM

Congrats! And yes it is about GT's, as it's now time to think about the tike's first tractor!


I couldnt stop laughing for a while, its a great idea. Ive already got a junior snowmobile for the kids. Guess a little tractor would also blow their minds since the first thing they ask when theyre in the yard is :'' Can we get a ride on the tractor?''. :D





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